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James Prescott
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Posted at 21:35 on 10th May 2013
I think i will ask Shirley to write my Epitaph --not just yet though.Smile
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Sk Lawson
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Posted at 21:36 on 10th May 2013

Excuse me...that was suppose to be 1200 plants they picked up an hauled out of there by helicopter. I would say whom ever was sponsoring this growing field , if they had to use something to get in there by air...it must be the moneyed Drug Cartel south of  us backing the operation. Just another day in "LA LA Land"...lol.

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editPosted at 02:55 on 11th May 2013

On what James?.....you know as an soul, one never dies, they go onward in another realm until they can manifest here on earth again.

I am reading about kate Middleton and looking at pictures of her tonight..she's hold her weight down really good so far. Prince Harry let it out that she's having an Boy?...hum. I think because my younger brother felt like he was so over shadowed by women...it might be nice she's haing an son first....and hops someday she has and little "Kate" also. I wanted my son..reason being my girlfriend couldn't say enough about her girls...but her son...well, he was like his dad...and we all know it was an 50/50 if she approved of him...so So I wanted my son...but if I had an daughter she would of never been denied...I don't play "favorites" of the family...I've had enough of that myself growing up. It's hard to tell others that if they weren't there and understood what was going on. I defend my sister as I was always made to do so...but I highly disagree with much of her lifestyle...and ways. My brother was 11 years younger them...so when I left our house to make one of my own...I never really wasaround him, but I did an lot of things for him back in those days...like saw to it he got to go to the prom in his hish school years....wore nice clothes...so forth. Tried to defend him from an mediocore teacher and didn't get anywhere. Neither did the teacher.I never passed another school bond while we lived in the area I wasso angry...discriminate..yes, they do! He also kind of goes across my grain trying to say he knows it all and doesn't...wasn't old enough back then to know it all. I remeber the day that dad brought over an box of his liquor...and I said...what's this all about...he said...it's yours..I said why...he said because you probably own't drink...your brother will...and make an complete ass out of himself in the process. Don't want it in the house any more. He's right...liquor and family don't mix very well...I mean that for everyone also.

I am glad that Kate is holding her own about the baby so well, it is the thing to do. She makes for good sense. William is there to watch over her also...may those wonderful times of babyhood start for them. When they are little they aren't half the problem to the parents until they are into the world around others and their influences...judgements.  I remember one time I had left the TV set on with cartoons....and later that day...I heard an wee little boy say to me...Hey Mom... Let's go kick butt!....I knew it had been the cartoon he'd had watched that morning....G. I Joe. I had to laugh at the time and then frown and tell him not to say such things. My sister in-law's grandson and I were having an concerned discussion about monsters. I had to tell him my "secret" on how to get rid of them...you see...I have fan ceilings and if any show up...I turn the fans on...it's been known that they fly around the room and you open the doorand out they go, they never come back....he knows that I'm correct....  I asked him if he needed an fan to let me know..I'd get one for him...during this deep conversation of ours. That's the kind of things said that make for the memories later on. I never heard him complain about them afterwards, or of being scared at night. they go through stages growing up. As an mother of an son..she will have to know that someday she'll be number around him. If she wants him to be an man..he can't be an mama's boy either. That's when they get closer to thier dad and brothers..she will always demand recongition, but give up the reins also....and understand, that's the way it is asan husband and father himself. 

It turned cloudy and muggy hot and thunderstorms are building up near Mt. Hood agressively this afternoon. Hubby got asked to do an Eagle Scout review tonight at Corbett...so he's going to do that..Hum. He was home most of this morning while I was birthday shopping....we just got back from giving our the presents...I buy each one of the three sacks...one with goodies to eat, meals with freinds to share...one with clothing...and one with whatever toys I can find don' t cost oto much and $100 for later on and school necessities. Just my son left and I'm done with the birthdays this year. Of course by the time mine comes around in June..I'm pretty well "broke". ButI grew up never having an birthday cake..or an present until my present hubby gave me both one year when I was in high school. Grew up never being able to stay overnight with friends.. or having friends over also. May how things have changed thse days.Migh tbe why I don't mind the grand kids coming over now. Even though my health isn't always the greatest sometimes. I guess I go, but I asked you all to go to Wikipedia and look up Gilles de Rais....and "arabian name...hint. I would suggest the namesake of "Giles Rogers" also.

His serial killer epitaph....is now disputed....if he was "Giles Rogers" he was burned at the stake for being an witch...which means the King was after his neck for something. Most likely to hold onto his crown for some reason or another. He look slike he's affilated with the women's movement called the BEguines...often accused of withchcraft...even into New England. He was most probably an templar knight the catholic church wanted put out of business also...as it says he spent money like wine...very freely. He alsowas into alchemy and as they call it "the occult" later on..naturally tortured for his confession of the murders. Many of the templar knights were also into alchemy. To my knoweldge they never had any rituals that had children in them...until Lester Crowley hints at it..more so in fatherhood of them, then it blood rituals of them. Itis though where there is money and high stature... there is always the questioning of that happening. But I will tell you later on how hard this is to find the truth..as to the various connections I make with one Giles Rogers. Wikipedia is giving an alternate name that others give as this man's father instead of him. "Monte" in French is an title to his holdings as an influencial Frenchman...and the name of "Morey"added to it...was proably the survial of Jacques De Molay..which took on an Muary/Murray/Mowbray(England) form De Molay..( French) Joan of Arc had an very close assoication with the Flavel family..whom they changed in this to "Laval"..in FRance  they were into alchemy also as "Scientist" of their day. Supposedly he took these children and an put them into bondage, raped them, decapitated them, urininated on them and killed them...in worhsipto Satan for "wealth" and prestige. There in lies the dispute as to who is telling the truth...and who were playing hatchmen to him. If he was carrying on an "Arabian" name...maybe he was muslim at some time. Part of Queen Eleanor's "moor" sect religious group. I foundan Marie-Madelein Marais..b. 1682...Plesis Marle, FRance...died 1716 of "Drakenstein"?...almost to funny to know if I should look it..one wonders if this was aso "made up" by someone. There is very little in this family of where they orginally came from early on...other then the association of the name being Arabian. Possibly the tiewith the Lawson's also...whom needed all the money they could getas they were running the coutnry's "mint" before the War of Roses. They have Robert Lawson as burned at the stake also...I find that totally unreliable information in ways also..."Robert" is an Scottish name, and as far as I know he stayed in Scotland near Edinburgh Castle. the date the give on this gentlemanis 1404 to 1440...it was 1398that George (Planegent) later Lawson was knighted by the Queen..and about this time they (catholic church) decided to kill every "Templar Knight" they could if not tortouring them to death for an "confession" of Satanism. It is hard telling if the "alchemy" they were into was also making  base metals into "Gold". Wikipedia has been coming out with some rather rounchy history of people...and it's my understanding that anyone can send in information on anyone else for them to relate it in thier web site. Maybe it helps to sooth the feelings of the latest "Catholic' abuse of children to see other slammed somewhat? I also have two different lines later on of this guy also..one is the Berkley family...the other is the Howard family as to whom his estates went to over in England after his death. He is also being portrayed as an "French" Blackbeard of his day...othersay this is merely "poppycock" information....he was before blackbeard was ever heard of in history. But they did do something..they have invented an whole new and younger person named Giles Rogers over here in the USA, landing on the shores, with an genelogy of people I've never heard of either....that I never found in the old records...and beleive me it took me quite an time finding him in early years. So much "mistruth" these days. He was given the title in France of Marshal...then executed apparently. He was tied with the William De Warren family in England also Marshal in England do same local..so I wonder.  As an templar knight..he would of not been an worshiper of the Diana Goddess at all. See why I said you have to understand the Masonic Lodge and thier rituals. Those whom don't... get things wrong. The "witch" in New England callled "Goode" is likewise tied to Barbadoes through her housekeeper for her guilt.She looked to me like perhaps an Begiune woman also...women whom most often more moneyed then the males they are married to...in an day when women called thier husband's "Mr so-an-forth"  and were expected to give big doweries also. Anyway this guy was executed..not burned at the platform, which Id never  heard of before this article..and is buried at an monestry at Nates...wherever that is at...I guess "France"?.  So like what's in it to keep the bad and ugly being given for an legacy by others...there must be something in it for the people writing up this man's legacy as they did...My guess is they are the true "sinsiter" ones perhaps.

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Ron Brind
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Posted at 10:27 on 11th May 2013

Phew, what a post, but really interesting Shirley. Thank you for your thoughts, opinions, funny comments and information that must take an age to write.

Keep it coming and after that, hello to all POEsters...

 

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James Prescott
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Posted at 11:16 on 11th May 2013

WOW that was a post and halfSmilewell done Shirley.

Good Morning to all on this miserable saturday morning.

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Sk Lawson
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Posted at 12:36 on 11th May 2013

AS I said the name of Rais is Arabic...this was man was said born 1404 to 1440 when he died. I figured if he was afliated with the ruling Planegent family at the time...I'd give history looking into of who was who in Arabia back then and with the Templar Knights. Genealogy on the Morfote family has an long line of Arabic names...they were military men, raised Arabian horses at the time, an armies. Mostlikely the name of "Pais" was an anglecized name in Englsih...because there's no history of the name in England prior. All this lead me to

Al-Salih Hajja.....whom was an ruler in the Bahri Dynasty in 1382.,,son of Shaban II.  Teh father fought against the the Crusafer Knightsof King Louis the IX of France (have to check that out as of yet)...there is only one descendent left of this family now...Fuad Shabenov, an Russian movie maker. Some o fthe family went to South Africa in the early days..probably trying to replace the Gold revenues from the Crusaders hauling out of Arabia..midde-east. The Bahri mamluke Dynasty covered all of northen Egypt into Cario and over into Arabia for the mst part and some into Turkey along the coast...place of mankind's first work with metals in the world. Horses would need bridles, and horse shoes and an blacksmith. So it's my guess if there ever was an name of "Rais" possibly with an a at the end of it..it was dervived from "Hajji" perhaps. Some of this family may of went to Portugal and then over into Mexico in reguard to the Gold connections and as rulers...Particualarly Constance Rodrigues De Moris..who claims off the Rais name geneaolgy.He was most likely by religion "Islamic" in his day. I'm sure that the afflication with England was the army and supplies he provided and took care of as well as the "Gold"...at least with the Lawson side.... they were also into merchant ships as well. I still think he could of been "Giles  Rogers" at some time also...but will look more into the Rogers family. Not to much said about the elder of this name. Suposedly an female marriage of the Lawson side women though. My intial information from years back said that he was burned at the stake for claiming royalty lines off the crown as an "Pretender". I found John Rogers with John Lawson back then..in records concerning the "Royal Navy" and its payment sheets in service of the King...before John himself gets ousted after marrying into the Howard family supposedly. His time era information I have is during the reign beginning with Henry IV. George they are making into an borther to Sir John Lawson...both owned ships back then also.

I am up at 4 am right now because I am so
hot" feeling from the muggy air of last night...trying to cool off an bit I turned some fans on. going back to bed.  Iran is just bouncing up and down this last 24 hours with earthquakes...starting with the 6.8and another 6.0 and an series of them in the four to five range. I've found no in-depth news about it and if people have been hurt or not...I don' t see how they could not of been though

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rustyruth
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Posted at 14:55 on 11th May 2013
Afternoon everyone, bit late here today, been a bit busy again trying to get stuff done avoiding the torrential downpours in amongst some, but not much sunshine.
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cathyml
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Posted at 17:30 on 11th May 2013
Our weather has been horrible today, cold, windy and drizzly and then the electricity went off all day.  Thankfully it is back now but there is lightning in the distance so I am really hoping if there is a storm brewing it doesn't come this way.  If I disappear suddenly it would mean the storm has arrived here,  which will probably be a prelude to losing the power again!Frown
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Posted at 17:48 on 11th May 2013
Not another storm Cathy, I thought they should be over by this time of year. Fingers crossed that the power stays on this time. 
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cathyml
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Posted at 18:14 on 11th May 2013
It is getting late in the season for storms but something nasty has blown up from somewhere!  I am keeping my fingers crossed that it misses us but the gas heater is already alight just in case we lose power again!!
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