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lancashirelove
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quotePosted at 19:35 on 27th October 2009

thanks for that johnny, I agree theres no such thing as a free lunch. The British NHS (National Health Service) system is paid for by paying National Insurance contributions via pay as you earn deductions from your salery. Everyone here has a moan about the NHS just like they moan about the weather but if they feel they need to see a GP or have an operation tommorow they can pay and have it done privatly as and when they want. The ones that moan are only waiting in line because they want it free, along with all the other 'freebies'.  The NHS isnt second best to going private, its just that you may have to wait your turn for treatment.

Conservative (Right wing) supporters want to abolish the British NHS so that they can introduce private fees and health insurance from which they will profit finacialy. Just like the greedy Bankers who recently sent the world into recession

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Ron Brind
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quotePosted at 09:59 on 29th October 2009

What do UKIP have to say about it Michael?

And as for the greedy Bankers, well are there any words to sufficiently vent our anger? I say don't pay them and if they want to walk, then let them walk, and keep on walking because the banks will run without them and still turn us over on a daily basis!

Maybe another thread....Greedy Bankers, what would you do with them?

Coming up...

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Barbara Shoemaker
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quotePosted at 14:23 on 29th October 2009

My favorite fictional senior citizen, Maxine, with her unique perspective on things: 

"Let me get this straight…...we're going to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a president who also hasn't read it and who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's nearly broke…..what could possibly go wrong?"
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Diana Sinclair
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quotePosted at 17:28 on 29th October 2009

That would be funny if it weren't so blatantly true, Barbara! Lol!!!

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Beth Austin
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quotePosted at 19:03 on 29th October 2009

This has been, and still is, a volatile topic in the states.I have lived both sides of the pond for many years and know the mind-set of what is being said/done in the states as well as in UK. At the heart of it all, I htink both countries want what is best for their people, however, I know that in the states, the system works based on money and not need and that system has come to the UK. The concept is shameful but the facts are facts. I will watch this closely as I am interested in the views on this one.

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Beth Austin
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quotePosted at 19:08 on 29th October 2009
On the lighter side of it all....as a very young child I had heard the comment made that" money talks" so i thought i was tone deaf!  I had never heard it speak a word--keep in mind I was wee small-- and so I thought I was tone deaf...a concept that worked for maybe 1 day! Then I heard my brothers yelling and thought" THANK YOU LORD...I can hear again. Naive ?  Most definitely.  I was only 5!  Do we need good healthcare...yes....if for no other reason than to check the hearing of 5yr olds...LOL.....
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Ruth Gregory
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quotePosted at 03:20 on 30th October 2009

Johnny said:

"I think the American people can be excused for wanting to know the specifics on what it might cost them if the average taxpayer is footing the bill for coverage for all.  Universal health care sounds like a beautiful thing - but it's not free."

So true, Johnny.  But I think most people know how expensive it will be to cover EVERYBODY, and so they're perfectly content to not have everybody covered, which costs a lot more in the long run.

 

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lancashirelove
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quotePosted at 19:08 on 30th October 2009
If you had a weekly 1 doller per ticket National lottery with 60% of all procedes dedicated to your health service i'm sure it would fund most of the US health care needs. I dont know the adult population of the USA but a doller a week from every adult, with the chance of winning a cash lump sum tax free cant be a bad deal if it means the sick dont have to worry about medical bills.
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