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Ron Brind
Ron Brind
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quotePosted at 16:15 on 22nd October 2009

Nick Griffin represents the BNP on BBC's 'Question Time' tonight. Controversial he and his party may be, but how many people will be watching this programme tonight? I forecast the viewing figures will be very high and if they are, what does that tell you? It can only mean one of three things, I think;

1). The people agree with him.

2). The people disagree with him.

3). It's 50/50 and for once the people are taking note!

But lets not forget that 2 million people voted 2 of his MP's into Europe. Yes 2 MEP's!

And for those of you who think I am being racist by even daring to mention this I say, get real, this is a debate initiated by the BBC....not me!! However, as usual this is an opportunity for you to have your say...

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David Donnelly
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quotePosted at 17:49 on 22nd October 2009

Ron, I don't think "racist" has got anything to do with it, his party is addressing  a concern that most people with any "common dog" will be concerned about.......Immigration. That said I don't like Nick Griffin and I certainly don't buy in to the fascist aspect of the party BUT until another party starts listening to people's concerns and doesn't just start shouting "rascist" as a knee-jerk reaction, their following will increase.

Regards.

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Ron Brind
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quotePosted at 12:27 on 23rd October 2009

Some 8 million people tuned in to watch this programme last night, that is 4 times the normal figure! Doesn't that tell you something? Doesn't it tell you that we are unhappy with the policies of this Government and other parties? This may well turn out to be a protest vote but what it will do is play right into the hands of UKIP and I am all for that! Frankly, I think Nick Griffin did seem quite inexperienced but he was not given a fair chance to speak, always being shouted down when it was his turn, yet the audience was quiet when others had something to say! Regardless of BNP views I think David Dimbleby gave Nick Griffin a hard time, an unfair hard time at that, and in view of the fact that it was supposed to be an opportunity to allow fairness, I think the BBC (David Dimbleby in particular) was wrong, very wrong!!

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Jason T
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quotePosted at 12:36 on 23rd October 2009
On 23rd October 2009 12:27, Ron Brind wrote:

Some 8 million people tuned in to watch this programme last night, that is 4 times the normal figure! Doesn't that tell you something? Doesn't it tell you that we are unhappy with the policies of this Government and other parties? This may well turn out to be a protest vote but what it will do is play right into the hands of UKIP and I am all for that! Frankly, I think Nick Griffin did seem quite inexperienced but he was not given a fair chance to speak, always being shouted down when it was his turn, yet the audience was quiet when others had something to say! Regardless of BNP views I think David Dimbleby gave Nick Griffin a hard time, an unfair hard time at that, and in view of the fact that it was supposed to be an opportunity to allow fairness, I think the BBC (David Dimbleby in particular) was wrong, very wrong!!


People knew it would be controversial, and people do love to watch a fight! verbally or physically! remember the playground fights at school? adults act exactly the same!
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Ron Brind
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quotePosted at 12:41 on 23rd October 2009
Listen in to the Jeremy Vine show on BBC Radio 2 right now Jason, there are as many for the BNP as against, so lets say potentially 50/50 for Nick Griffin in an Election. How many people live in Britain? Seems to me that 4 million votes represents a large majority who dislike whats going on.
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Rob Faleer
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quotePosted at 13:59 on 23rd October 2009
Makes one nostalgic for the days when rival kings and their factions slugged it out on the battlefield! Bring back the Wars of the Roses, I say . . . only we might have to call it the Wars of the Posers! Wink
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Ruth Gregory
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quotePosted at 16:05 on 23rd October 2009

I don't know too much about Griffin or the BNP, but I do know that the price you pay for freedom of speech is that everyone gets to have their say, no matter how controversial or hateful.  And I agree with Jason, the high no. of people that tuned in is probably due to the controversy.

 

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Robert Mitchell
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quotePosted at 18:19 on 24th October 2009

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/10/24/bnp-leader-nick-griffin-in-pathetic-blast-at-lynch-mob-ordeal-on-question-time-115875-21769271/#

 Ahh diddums!! If you can't stand the heat...etc...slimeball!!

 London no longer British..what a joker!

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Beth Austin
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quotePosted at 20:46 on 24th October 2009
I tend to agree with you Ron, and I also think that maybe some of the potential changes we could face on election day results, may cause a great number of people to actually WAKE UP and pay a bit closer attention to what IS going on. Maybe comfortable complacency(?) is happening at a time when there should be some serious thought given to the political scene this time around. BNP could win just as easily as the other parties could lose, simply by the younger/newer voters actually getting out to vote this time, and voting for BNP. Scarey thought, but hope it doesn't happen that way. I would love to be wrong on this one.
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Robert Mitchell
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quotePosted at 20:28 on 25th October 2009
. Scarey thought, but hope it doesn't happen that way. I would love to be wrong on this one.

You are wrong so don't worry about it.
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