How do you feel about sterilization for some parents?

Also excellent points, Debbie. Again, I reiterate, we are not talking about people who happen to have fallen upon difficult times. We are talking about heartless people who many times have children for no other reason than because it enables them to take advantage of the welfare systems and free-load off those who have worked hard for decades and whose taxes have gone to support their lazy butts.

Of couse these people don't want to give up their children, not because they love them but because they are their meal ticket.

The error, IMHO, is subsidizing these people every time they pop out another baby.  I'm willing to bet that if they knew they wouldn't get any more money for those extra kids, they might (a long shot, I know) think twice about having another mouth that they will have to feed themselves.  Stop rewarding their lazy, irresponsible behavior.

I think that in this sate after your third child that they will sterilize you at no cost, but they don't do it permanently, they "tie the cords" so as to say...so if other children are needed someday it can be undone. I know people that live off the Government, most of them hate it, but can't get themselves "free" of the dependency once it becomes their foundation way in living...same for our politicans.  I have an thinking about life, we all will throughout our lifetime be wealthier..help others...be poorer, and need help, as we balance out the lessons of life in general...so understanding that, I would wait to see what happens for thsoe gettign the help and rather they turn around when they have more in life and repay to society the help they received.  I was talking one time to an friend, and we were discussing how some people "stink" and she was telling me that often people that have an degenerative disease or imblance in their body system have an odor. She said it was an "sign" they were not healthy. They can not function as an normal person would. for some reason or another. Many need help or facilties of cleaniness for them....you don't have to be poor for that part...just "unkept". I brought this up because of my own sister   and she was telling me that it was most likely in part her diabetes. It could be she might take an bath, but you'd not noitce it..as her sweat alone would reveal her body misfunction, liver prboems or kidney probelms makes people smell when they urinate, even if they wip ethemselves, unless they take baths daily you going ot notice an smell. ...it can't be drowned out with perfume and deoderant...sometimes she said it was the medications given to people also causes body odor. As to the survial thing, sister is weird, I mean there's times she does the weirdest things, and times when your talking to her, she seems as "brilliant" as all get out also. I have been around enough people like this to know it's an case of it usually For instance, I hired an gal said to be mentally slow, she couldn't spell.. won't say that..as she spelled like she "heard"..so it was Banket, not blanket.. but you asked her where there we fire hydrants at work and she could tell you perfectly, something not all the employees knew. I think she had been hounded about fire safety so much that she made it an thing of her life to know where they were at, because of her "slowness", I went to bat for her at times, because I always found so called "normal" people making fun of her. I just walked up there and I'd say..well, we KNOW she has an problem..what's yours?  It would just stop them dead, but they needed it. You know even "jesus" taught us "compassion" for others less fortunate. I do agree though in that their problems at times can be overwhelming without the help it takes in this owrld where money is needed for everything. Francis was another one that had kidney problems, she was always having kidney infections to deal with. We were always making her at work drink cranberry juice also. She was always hungry...we supposed because she either wasn't making food for herself, or on substence checks didn' t have enough money. So our kitchen cook, rather then throw out the food, offered it to her if she had an bit left over, because our budgets were "tight" back then but we still had an wee bit of lee-way...usually enough to feed an few extra people. Why not. We found out later on in one case she was short of funds because "Marylin" another worker was borrowing it off her. Yet she was another that was pretty "self-surival" in life...even if she was smart enough to "scam" what she needed off others. There are many people in the world.... that are in need in one way ro another. for everyone you know there might be three you don't know about. It's not an thing of how much money you have, its about how comfortably your living. Our thing growing up as kids was the lack of an large enough home. I was talking about the big old great homes one time back east and my mother said, "but you know they can be so cold in the winter"...Yet my grandfather had two house servants. We each have things we deal with in the trials of growing up I think. I'm still fighting in my life to have an decent clothes closet. I still have no place to hang my good clothes around here...drives me nuts..I buy those portable closets and after awhile they fall to peices on me...it was that way when I was an kid also.Drawers, no problem, hanging clothes..forget it.  Why?..I have no idea.