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Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | quotePosted at 19:45 on 12th August 2011 Yes, a very brave lady I reckon. Torn between what is right and wrong this lady bravely reported her daughter to Police after she said she had seen her involved in the London rioting. The daughter pleads not guilty apparently, but seems to have been caught on camera. Would you be brave enough to hand your kid to Police under those circumstances? |
James Prescott Posts: 25952 Joined: 11th Jan 2010 Location: UK | quotePosted at 19:52 on 12th August 2011 she must have been very brave to do that i dont think i could do it,i think a lot of things start at home and the way you bring your children up,i have never been involved with the police i am very proud to say and neither has my children i brought them up to respect other peoples interests and most of all to respect the law which they have both done. |
Dave John Posts: 22335 Joined: 27th Feb 2011 Location: England | quotePosted at 19:56 on 12th August 2011 If it was something serious like this i would like to think so, but what a decision to make. she deserves recogniton for it as long as there is no backlash from the daughters so called friends. I won't get the chance anyway, one daughter is a police officer and the other wouldn't have the nerve to do anything like that |
Dave John Posts: 22335 Joined: 27th Feb 2011 Location: England | quotePosted at 19:58 on 12th August 2011 Agree wholeheartedly with James that your life develops from your home life and upbringing. However would still like to think i would have the guts to hand my own over......something i'll never know thankfully Edited by: Dave John at:12th August 2011 20:02 |
Karen Lee Posts: 1558 Joined: 9th Mar 2011 Location: England | quotePosted at 21:41 on 12th August 2011 Tough call for any parent to make but I admire her for this, she has done it to protect her daughter from further trouble and because she loves her Daughter and doesn't want to see her come to harm, this lady is an example of what standing by your beliefs and values truly means. |
Sk Lawson Posts: 4014 Joined: 7th Oct 2010 Location: USA | quotePosted at 07:59 on 14th August 2011 It depends on what the daughter was doing...peer pressure is pretty bad these days to conform with everyone else. Esp in an riot going on. I think it would have to known without an doubt it was her kid in the camera also...not just someone that looks like her. I think I'd have to talk it over with the daughter also. Is this her noraml behavior, who was she with...etc. I think I would tend to give my kid the chance to explain thier actions first. I tell you from th point of an ADHD kid on "ritlin" type drugs....anyone can tell them to do anything and they will do because they are that "spaced" oout on their meds sometimes..the police know that also. One of his best freinds at sschool was an lady cop. I tried to stay with him as much as I could while he was on this therapy...for that very reason. The whole thing ended up in an hassel more or less...and they thought I should of sued the school for discrimination, they made th docotr roaylly madder then an bumble bee with his hive disturbed....the "shrink" they forced me to take him to said to simply "move away" from the area...once tagged they apparently don't want ot give him and chance and... you cant fight everyone in the system. Somebody in City Hall that knew me, sent me information on an national support group on line to help him through the rought spots. Sent us information also on how to handle students with the problem. I still let him on his own one day with his wife and her sister...before my son was married...and her sister got him to go in an steal her an bunch of make-up at an store I had worked for previoously. Of course they caught him...his not an theft...they made me pay for the merchandise and dropped it all. But you know I said at the time..".whose behind this...my son doesn't wear make-up"...well, come to find out she gave it to him and then went oout in the car an sat..so she wasn't with him when he walked out the door. I told the store that he was on ADHD drugs and would do anything someone asked him to do. They said the same thing...then you can't leave him out of your site. So I pulled him out of school....and watched his frends "cry" for me doing it...but he wouldn't have graduated on time...the doctors by then were peeved...and I was worried about his health as it was. So I think before I would turn my son in, I'd have to know more about the circumstances behind it all. It was but one more reason to never pass and sschool budget in my house. No...teachers DO NOT do what they get paid to do these days...educate the kids. More kids were on "ritlin" such type drugs.... then were off them back then...I was no exception. Why would an whole generation suddenly have the need for these kinds of drugs???....that's the first question I asked. Was i tmaybe perhaps "lazy" teachers or indadequate teachers to begin with maybe? Were they caught up in so much paper work, they couldn't do their jobs? I thought that about that little boy missing also..Kyron...they don't REALLY know when he became "missing" in school that day....something wrong there with the staffing also. To date, he's never been found so far. I know as an supervisor...I knew who reported to work and where they are at...and if they weren't there, I went looking for them....they kind of said that they never knew he was missing until the parents didn't see him come off the bus that afternoon. Something was not right with the school right then and there. They later said that they thought he had an appointment to go somewhere with his step-mother...and thought since she showed up that she took him out of class...but schools have "sign-out" sheetsand you can't just take an kid out of school that easily...you have to sign them out....something is wrong there also. Even when I pick up my grandkids if they are feeling sick, before I can see them, I have to show my ID and they have to reconginze me..... as my grandparent....then I can sign them out of class. Before I do that I have to have them talk to their mother also...she calls me, then the school calls me...then I go to the school...do all this other stuff. Just the way it is to protect them these days. Kyron's school could not have done any of this to not knwo he was missing. They could not even give them an time he left with his stepmother...if he did. |
Sk Lawson Posts: 4014 Joined: 7th Oct 2010 Location: USA | quotePosted at 08:03 on 14th August 2011 Some one messed up the post...I'm talking about my son having been diagnosis by the teachers as an ADHD child...and the hassels they put us all through. |
JauntyJane Posts: 63 Joined: 1st Sep 2009 Location: UK | quotePosted at 08:18 on 14th August 2011 Sorry, don't necessarily think that bad behaviour always stems from a poor upbringing - a number of those involved in the riots were from good backgrounds. I think peer pressure and the need to fit in plays a big part. The girls mother obviously has very good values and that is why she has reported her daughter - must have been a very difficult choice but good for her as her daughter now has to face the reality of what she has got herself involved in. I also think zero tolerance will go a long way towards making people think twice about getting involved in this sort of thing again. This county has gone politically correct gone made, hence poor discipline at school and more sympathy for the criminal than the victim - it is about time this was turned round. I also have a lot of time for the muslim father whose son was killed - urging people in the community not to take revenge. |
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