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James Prescott Posts: 25952 Joined: 11th Jan 2010 Location: UK | quotePosted at 19:26 on 9th November 2011 when we passed the area it was very bad visibility at the time,this was before the crash. they were still doing 50 mph then |
Sk Lawson Posts: 4014 Joined: 7th Oct 2010 Location: USA | quotePosted at 22:42 on 9th November 2011 Sad to hear this...we have some maybe three car acciients an day at times around here any more..because there's just that many people any more. they been really working the Sandy route of the highway..both before getting into town and leaving it...to slow people down. I see today they are out by the college....two on motorcycles and one in an offical police car stopping them also. Seems like everyone thinks they own the road and they are the only one's driving on it. People do travel to close...and many times in an cluster where if one person has an problem.... they all go down the tube. Most people... from personal expereince... never know what really happened when an accident happens until afterward....and it takes some time to understand what was going on. They need to see what we did one time...not to far away....head on...we came along just after it happened to see the car motor had cut the passenger in half..her top half of her body was on the car seat and her husband or the driver was part of the motor..inside the car. Someone had taken something to cover some of him up it was so bloody and mangled up an body. to me it was sickening to my stomach to come across this and see it....horrible. It sure makes you think about "speed" and slowing down. |
Rob Faleer Posts: 703 Joined: 10th Jun 2005 Location: USA | quotePosted at 01:39 on 10th November 2011 My condolences to the victims of this horrible accident and their families. I have never liked driving that stretch of the M5--I've had two very close calls driving on the motorway in that area over the years, one a bit south of Bridgwater and one very near Taunton, and both related to terrible weather and poor visibility. Since my research often takes me to Somerset and Devon, I sometimes have no choice but to take the M5, though I avoid it whenever possible. Give me a good B-road any day, though! |
Syd Harling Posts: 636 Joined: 21st Apr 2011 Location: South Africa | quotePosted at 05:23 on 10th November 2011 Nice to know that HGVs are not allowed in the outside lane Paul. Do the drivers adhere to this rule in the UK? They certainly do not here. I agree that the driving habits of HGVs should be investigated. The trucking industry always defends the drivers and claims that car drivers should give them more room because they take longer to stop. True ,but then they should not cut in front of cars either or tailgate one another. My wife and I found ourselves on the M25 one morning at around 5:30 AM and it seemed that the trucks which arrived from mainland Europe during the night had just reached the London area. There were scores of them racing each other at speeds well over 70 MPH. There happened to be very few cars on that stretch of motorway at the time and the HGVs reigned supreme. It was so bad that we decided to pull into a services and have breakfast. When we rejoined the M25 later the HGV traffic had tapered off. Of course most of the trucks were "foreign" so British drivers were not the bad guys in that instance. We also had a scary experience going through the Dartford tunnel. The HGVs seemed hell-bent on squeezing our small car into an even smaller one. Have a good day all. |
| Rob Faleer Posts: 703 Joined: 10th Jun 2005 Location: USA | quotePosted at 14:01 on 10th November 2011 Gotta agree with you about the Dartford tunnel, Syd! I have always found it to be a scary experience! I've had to run up to East Anglia directly from Gatwick Airport a couple of times and the Dartford Crossing is really about the only way to get there, barring a much longer drive around the west of London (and don't think that I haven't mulled that possibility over!). I have found that the southbound bridge is not much better than the northbound tunnel system when it comes to being squeezed out by those massive behemoths! And the traffic backups there can be monumental with movement that can only be measured on a glacial scale--I've heard the motorway approaches to the Dartford Crossing described as "the largest parking lot in Europe!" |
| Syd Harling Posts: 636 Joined: 21st Apr 2011 Location: South Africa | quotePosted at 17:14 on 10th November 2011 Hi Rob, I always thought the M25 was a larger parking lot. |
Dave John Posts: 22335 Joined: 27th Feb 2011 Location: England | quotePosted at 17:39 on 10th November 2011 Don't forget Chris Rea wrot a song about the M25 ' The Road To Hell ' |
| Syd Harling Posts: 636 Joined: 21st Apr 2011 Location: South Africa | quotePosted at 18:32 on 10th November 2011 Nice one Dave. I still have have a picture taken from inside the car of traffic stopped on the M25 near the M4 junction. No one went anywhere for quite some time. Hot as hell it was that day too. |
| Sk Lawson Posts: 4014 Joined: 7th Oct 2010 Location: USA | quotePosted at 03:23 on 11th November 2011 I don't know about Brtiain...but I've driven all over the USA and the worst it is here is right around the San Francisco bridge at rush time where it's eight lanes across....everyone going like an bat out hell and they don't want to give you any space if you need an lane change...which means you need to know the road and be in the right lane to make it off the road or you'll be driving to Mexico before you can turn around comfortably...I'm just kidding....but it's pretty bad down there. I've even been caught in rush holur traffic for three hours outside New York City...not moving an inch during that entire time...and still didnt' consider is as dangerous as headed near the Golden Gate bridge....San Francisco. Only other bad place has been near "lookout Mountain" in Tenneesee...they named it aptly also...mostly because of the night time thunderstorms that go through the area in the summertime. Truckers here have an huge amount of rules they have to know and adhere to drive down our roads...far more then most automobile drivers. Most of them pay outrageous road taxes to have them on the roads also. |
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