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Peter Evans Posts: 3863 Joined: 20th Aug 2006 Location: UK | quotePosted at 22:49 on 1st June 2008 Yeh, the more complicated a camera, the more scope for mistakes. And boy have I made a few. |
Andy Edwards Posts: 1900 Joined: 14th Mar 2008 Location: UK | quotePosted at 07:25 on 2nd June 2008 Save your money for goodness sake! I've got a Fujifilm finepix S5600, it cost me £200, now you can pick one up for about £120. It's got a 10x zoom and wide angle lens built in and it's a lot easier to use than those three ton Canons, Pentax, Nikon etc. The camera doesn't take the picture, you do!! I laugh my head off when I go to the wetlands and see 'photographers' carting around thousands of pounds worth of equipment. I laugh even more when they show me their pictures on their screens, they're no better than I take. The way I see it, if you want to drive at 70mph, what's the point of having a Ferrari, buy something sensible. Sorry everyone with expensive gear, good luck when you accidently drop it all in a river! |
| Andy Edwards Posts: 1900 Joined: 14th Mar 2008 Location: UK | quotePosted at 08:05 on 2nd June 2008 On 11th March 2008 14:19, Peter Evans wrote:
Exactly my point Peter, why struggle? Did I forget to mention my exceedingly cheap camera has built in macro too? And I bought a close up filter for £22 to make the macro even better! Whilst you're all trying to hold a 3ft piece of equipment still (or missing a great shot fiddling around with a stupid tripod, God gave us arms and anti-vibration, yes it's got that too!!!! oh and TV quality video), I point mine where I want it pointed and press the button. I've had all those overpriced cameras before but I have to say in all honesty this one is the very best I've had ever. I wonder if Fuji will give me commission? |
| Andy Edwards Posts: 1900 Joined: 14th Mar 2008 Location: UK | quotePosted at 08:09 on 2nd June 2008 |
L Posts: 5656 Joined: 10th Jun 2004 Location: UK | quotePosted at 08:12 on 2nd June 2008 I do what you do Andy, I can get our cameras in my pocket or handbag, cant be bothered to cart a load of stuff around when you get just as good a pics! |
| Andy Edwards Posts: 1900 Joined: 14th Mar 2008 Location: UK | quotePosted at 08:16 on 2nd June 2008 Exactly Lyn. The point I'm trying to make, for what it's worth, is the picture is only as good as the photographer takes, not the camera. It's still possible to cut heads off with a £10,000 camera, have bleached out shots, blurred shots, under exposed, over exposed etc etc. You only get a picture of what you see through the viewfinder, and any amount of money won't improve the composition, perspective, or subject matter. |
| Andy Edwards Posts: 1900 Joined: 14th Mar 2008 Location: UK | quotePosted at 08:34 on 2nd June 2008 On 1st June 2008 03:26, Frank Carr wrote: I'm not laughing Frank. I've seen your pictures and they're brilliant.
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| Gemm Ferrane Posts: 36 Joined: 12th Dec 2006 Location: UK | quotePosted at 09:38 on 2nd June 2008 On 2nd June 2008 07:25, Andy Edwards wrote:
I think you are correct in many ways. It's difinitely the users that make the difference. Having said that, there are certain situations where more expensive cameras 'can' help, e.g. in the downpour, when huge prints have to be made, when high ISO is required (low noise), when 'specialsits' lenses are required (1:1 macro, large aperture etc), or when short (no) shutte lag or fast AF is required (birds in flight, for example). I wouldn't laugh at other people's gear though. That's just not nice. |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | quotePosted at 10:51 on 2nd June 2008 Hi Gemm, I don't remember seeing you in the forum before even though you have been a POE member for a long time, so Welcome to the forum! Join in and give that Peter some stick for me!! |
| Andy Edwards Posts: 1900 Joined: 14th Mar 2008 Location: UK | quotePosted at 10:56 on 2nd June 2008 Hi Gemm, thanks for the reply. Just to answer the points you make there if I may. As far as ISO goes, my camera has a range or 64 to 1600, and as we both know, that's a pretty good range, my cameras' default setting is 200 ISO I believe, but if I have to take shots with no noise I select 64 or 100. I have pictures that I've taken in rain, I have pictures of birds in flight too, in fact I have won photography competitions with them. As for macro, fair enough I can't get a close up of an ants head, but then neither can Canons, Nikons etc without a very expensive addition lens wise. I also find that most photographers with expensive cameras and lenses still use Photoshop etc to enhance their pictures, so they can't be that good can they? I certainly don't laugh at other peoples equipment, just their antics when they are carrying all that gear and taking all that time to set it up, that's what I meant. I can get 30 shots of a bird in a tree before they even get the tripod set up, usually it's flown before they take the first shot. Kindest regards, Andy. |
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