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Paul HiltonPremier Member - Click for more info
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quotePosted at 22:35 on 11th August 2008
Didcot power station from the Ridgeway
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Didcot power station was built in 1964 at a cost of £104 million. It burns coal, gas, and bio-fuel.  It does appear, to me nyway, to produce a lot of steam and, at times, you can see localised clouds forming above it. I don't think these large power stations are all that popular at all in differing respects, so we need the alternative whatever that might be in the end.
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quotePosted at 22:40 on 11th August 2008
You might also like to note in the foreground the fields of rape, and from what I've read, that plant isn't the answer for bio-fuels that it initially appears to be, and there are several problems associated with it, from what I recall.
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Wolf
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quotePosted at 00:53 on 12th August 2008
The thing that worries me ,is with all the propellers going round, will we take off somewhere ???Undecided
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Ruth Gregory
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quotePosted at 04:55 on 12th August 2008

The first place I'd ever seen them in mass quantities is Palm Springs, CA.  They're everywhere for miles.  But Palm Springs sits in a windy desert valley and I think it's great that they're harnessing wind energy.  A link to one of the photos is below.  They're really only a modern, stripped down version of a windmill, if you really think about it.

When we were on the train from York to London, I couldn't believe how many power plants we saw, and at the time we assumed them to be nuclear.  I wish people in Arizona (including me) would put their money where their mouths are and install solar systems.  We have sunshine 86 out of every hundred days here.  A friend of mine recently went completely solar and now she actually sells power back to the grid.  Her electric bill is about $17 per month.  It's a bit pricey to install, but pays for itself in the long run and qualfies you for tax breaks and other discounts.

http://www.azsolarcenter.com/working/photos/pasq/pasq04.jpg

 

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Wolf
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quotePosted at 06:10 on 12th August 2008

Here are a couple of links to the wind farm near to where I lived in the country, and the little towns in the area.

www.argylecounty.com.au/nature/windfarm.

 

www.argylecounty.com.au/towns/crookwell

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quotePosted at 07:01 on 12th August 2008
On 12th August 2008 00:53, Wolf wrote:
The thing that worries me ,is with all the propellers going round, will we take off somewhere ???Undecided

LOL @ Wolf! Nice avatar pic btw Smile
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Stephanie Jackson
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quotePosted at 08:40 on 12th August 2008
On 11th August 2008 21:57, Andy Edwards wrote:
I used to deliver to Drax Stephanie, until you get up close you just can't imagine the size of the place. The large chimney you can see is over 500 feet tall and the turbine house is well over half a mile long. I took this picture from the Ouse bridge, probably about 4 miles away from the power station. It's frightening!! And yes Stephanie, I love the wind turbines....not one ounce of carbon monoxide comes from them. On my travels I have seen very many of them...in Scotland they stand on top of mountains and don't look too bad at all. We have to balance the effects on the atmosphere with asthetics.....take a trip through London or any other big city these days, there are plenty of buildings and factories that make wind turbines look like Jennifer Aniston!

My friend Stephen who is a graphic designer works for a firm in Scotland who plan the wind turbines on the mountains there. They go to alot of trouble to site them properly. He does all the drawings. My children love to see them when we go to Cornwall. I would have one if I was lucky enough to get my dream farm in the future!
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Andy Edwards
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quotePosted at 09:33 on 12th August 2008
Morning Ruth. Drax is only 15 or so miles from York, I'm certain you would have seen it, along with Eggborough and Ferrybridge. They are coal fired, not nuclear, and have their own railway systems to accomodate the coal trains that deliver there. The ironic thing is, of course, these power stations were sited deliberately near to Selby/Doncaster because of the proximity of the coal mines..........now all defunct unfortunately. The trains now bring in French coal, which is cheaper but of a much worse quality! Even though there is an abundance of coal underground, it won't be mined anymore. This country has a habit of shooting itself in the foot.
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Andy Edwards
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quotePosted at 09:44 on 12th August 2008
Going back to your point Paul, the oil seed rape to my mind won't make a ha'pence of difference. Nor will palm oil, which huge swathes of rainforest is being destroyed to accomodate the trees that it comes from. All this nonsense about bio-fuels makes me laugh, it's just another ploy to raise the price of fuel, at no benefit to the atmosphere. Do you know, for instance, that the Toyota Prius, the half electric, half petrol car, has components shipped from just about every continent for its' manufacture? I should imagine those cargo vessels kick out more emissions than the alternative cars ever would!!
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Vera Howarth
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quotePosted at 09:49 on 12th August 2008

don't all shout at me at once but I don't dislike them.They are just new to us .I expect people didn't much care for the windmils with sails at first, the oneswe now find picturesque today.

Also I don't find all industrial sites of a past era ugly ,either.

I live in area that was once very heavily mined .They are all gone now and no-one has hadthe foresight to retain much of the industial architecture.

The mines very near to me had interesting architecture-now all gone including the chimney to the Maypole colliery, that was demolished only 2 years ago to make way for new housing, despite the fact that below the surface is the last resting place of many men and boys killed in an infamous explosion in 1908.

A lot of our industrial heritage is being lost and although much of it is thought to be ugly -beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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