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rustyruth Posts: 18773 Joined: 23rd Oct 2012 Location: England | quotePosted at 21:48 on 27th January 2014 £650 to £700 for Photoshop Pixelmator cost me £13.99 and Gimp is free, I've never had a problem with either, they both do everything I need and both are easy to use, especially Pixelmator. Edited by: rustyruth at:27th January 2014 21:50 |
Dave John Posts: 22335 Joined: 27th Feb 2011 Location: England | quotePosted at 21:54 on 27th January 2014 That was for the top FULL version prior to Adobe going monthly subscription. But don't forget it is fully fledged professional DESIGN programme, not just for editing photographs. Photo editing is just a small part of what can be done on it. I got my CS4 version passed on from a mate who got CS6 but he did set it off against his business !!!!! Both the programmes you have there are excellent too. Another good free one is FASTSTONE. |
rustyruth Posts: 18773 Joined: 23rd Oct 2012 Location: England | quotePosted at 22:02 on 27th January 2014 I'll have a look at FASTSTONE Dave. I've got a brilliant one for the iPad called HD Photo Wizard, it was £1.49 and I'm well impressed, I can't find much that it won't do yet, money well spent. I do like Pixelmator though, it's idiot proof- enough said |
Sue H Posts: 8172 Joined: 29th Jun 2007 Location: USA | quotePosted at 22:48 on 27th January 2014 Some of those 'over' worked pictures of England I am seeing being submitted would be MUCH better in my eye, were they unadulterated. I don't mind a bit of enhancement, but some can just go over the top. There, just my two pennies worth. |
rustyruth Posts: 18773 Joined: 23rd Oct 2012 Location: England | quotePosted at 23:22 on 27th January 2014 On 27th January 2014 22:48, Sue H wrote:
I agree with your two pennies worth Sue.
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Dave John Posts: 22335 Joined: 27th Feb 2011 Location: England | quotePosted at 23:23 on 27th January 2014 Thanks for that John. As I have said on many occasions it is what the site is all about and the members are very good at. Helping each otherand offering constructive criticism as opposed to that which is evident on more photographic based sites. We are all interested in 'good' photos and not hung up with equipment. There is a very wide range of equipment used and very good images from it all. The old adage ' it's not what you've got, it's how you use it' |
rustyruth Posts: 18773 Joined: 23rd Oct 2012 Location: England | quotePosted at 23:26 on 27th January 2014 Well said Dave. |
Vince Hawthorn Posts: 12758 Joined: 19th Apr 2010 Location: UK | quotePosted at 23:34 on 27th January 2014 And do not forget the most important bit of kit in the bag- an eye for the shot. With all the high end kit and computer trickery , it still comes down to the photographer's eye. As for manipulations, I have always said I stay away from photoshop type programmes, just as John said the basic microsoft programme to put right when I do not see straight or need a small trim. Oh , and of course upto recently I did have to resize so it would fit on POE ( most important). I do think we are to one degree or another very much of a similar opinion. |
Dave John Posts: 22335 Joined: 27th Feb 2011 Location: England | quotePosted at 23:47 on 27th January 2014 Spot on Vince. You can have the most upto date automated camera available, but if you cannot SEE an image in your mind before looking through the camera you are gonna struggle, there is only so much editing programmes can achieve. And yes we are all on the same wavelength. The debate of 'Photoshop or not' will go on until the next phase of photography after digital comes along, and whatever technology does follow, a very similar debate will certainly carry on. |
Rod Burkey Posts: 554 Joined: 2nd Sep 2008 Location: UK | quotePosted at 13:39 on 28th January 2014 Photo editing is now, like it was in the days when we had dark rooms, a way of ending up with a decent result. I used to use my hands and various simple shaped items to hold back areas of an image during the exposure of a negative onto the paper. I also used multi grade papers and a cocktail of chemicals which suited me. I did have the inclination, and made time to produce an end result I could show to others, or even get published the odd time. Photoshop is a replacement for all the aids we used to use. For me it is not cheating. Let 's say I go to a place to capture an image. Before going, I know roughly which way the sun will be shining and have an idea of how I will compose the shot. I get there, and it all looks just as I want, but there is a very unsightly bin stuck in the way. If I were to be a purist, I would either just take the picture, keeping the bin, move the bin risking some negative reaction from the owner, or, go back another day. I would decide to remove the offending item using skills honed with Photoshop. Is ending up with a picture minus the bin, which is probably there only once a week wrong? I don't think it is, anymore than burning in cloud detail or increasing saturation. I have digitally removed the odd wire or cable, and sometimes litter. If pictures are over worked at the editing stage they can look a bit daft, but pictures in dire need of attention prior to submission, are just as bad, and show a lack of time spent just looking at a picture before downloading. If you don't look at your own work a little critically, why should you expect others to be at all interested? I could not really fully understand the reasoning for rejecting monochrome images. Does this mean that in theory, all POE images should be in colour? Shame if that were to be the case, in my view. Of course, there are monochrome images accepted and a few of them are mine. I like "seeing" things in black and white sometimes. Judging images is subjective, and one man's meat really is another man's poison. I fully appreciate that, and if any of my pictures are deleted or not accepted by POE I will certainly not be offended. I would like to believe that I inhabit the real world, but may be deluded.
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