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Edward Lever Posts: 734 Joined: 22nd Dec 2005 Location: UK | quotePosted at 22:30 on 22nd April 2013 I was amazed (and disgusted) to read the news that there are at least 8000 NHS Managers on salaries of over £100,000 per annum, while ward nurses get around £21,000 per annum, see The NHS is not the only public service where managers are paid obscene amounts of money for incompetence. Highly paid chief executives infest many local authorities, with no explanation as to why they deserve such astronomical salaries. These people are not self-made business people, who achieve success by their own efforts, but are part of a mutually self-rewarding 'elite' who seem to have pulled an amazing trick on the public, who pay for them through their taxes. What a load of mugs we are to put up with it. Maybe this is another area where UKIP might clean up.
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Andrew Marks Posts: 59 Joined: 1st May 2011 Location: England | quotePosted at 07:13 on 23rd April 2013 My wife works for the NHS. She is paid a pitiful sum to do a difficult and demanding job dealing with patients notes and all the secrecy and red tape that surrounds them. Last year her job was moved further away from home. This put further strain on her finacial situation. Now they are moving her again, to a location where she will have to pay around a fifth of her take-home pay just to park. Her managers however (of which there are three in an office of five) are allowed to work from home, are allowed to vary their times and find no hardship in this continued disruption. If she leaves, which is what they will tell her to do if she complains, she will lose the opportunity to provide herself with a small pension from the NHS. Yet the upper echelons swan around in smart cars, work when and where they want, coming up with grandiose schemes to better themselves and their cronies at the expense of the public and to the detriment of the whole medical system. Yes, it is time that the so-called "management" of such institutions as the NHS were brought to book and made to justify the phenominal slaries, benefits and perks they recieve. In the commercial world they would be out on their ear and labeled incompetant, but our forgiving society won't allow this. Andy |
Edward Lever Posts: 734 Joined: 22nd Dec 2005 Location: UK | quotePosted at 07:28 on 23rd April 2013 I'm saddened (but not surprised) by Andrew's account of his wife's employment situation in the NHS. Like her, I have also had the experience of being forced to commute further (at my own expense) or lose my job. Having worked for idiot managers myself, I can sympathise with her. I don't know what the answer is. Whether we as a society accept it or not, these people seem to be untouchable. Even when they are forced to leave because of incompetence (often for another highly paid job), they are rewarded to the tune of many £100k. |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | quotePosted at 08:45 on 23rd April 2013 I agree with what is being said here by Edward and Andrew in both posts and also think it is a disgraceful situation that needs to be addressed. I also know of people getting obscene amounts of money for similar jobs in the NHS and what do they really contribute, nothing! I don't think society does accept it Edward more a case of until recently we didn't know what these scumbags were being paid. Edward suggests UKIP might 'clean up' and yes given the opportunity I think Nigel Farage (UKIP) would jump on this, but we need to get them in a position to be able to make those changes. I think we all know what we have to do for the May Elections don't we? In the meantime, for those of you out there working in the NHS at lower paid levels and working b...y hard for us, know that we at POE appreciate very much what you do and are on the case for you.
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Jason T Posts: 7421 Joined: 14th Apr 2004 Location: UK | quotePosted at 12:09 on 24th April 2013 Yep the NHS does seem to be top heavy! I'm sure the plan is to erode the NHS until the public turn on it, which is starting to happen, people fought for the NHS once, but noitice all the stories of incompetence coming out? How many are true, or not exaggerated? not many, if any! smearing mud is an old tactic, but seems to work! people fall for it! So the frontline staff get whittled away, are expected to do more for less, with less, its bound to fail, and because the mud has stuck people will be happy to see the back of it! victory, it'll be privatised! and that's when we all realise just what we had!
Saying all that the NHS doesn't seem to be on it's own with to many incompetent, overpaid managers, it would seem pretty much every organisation suffers the same, people don't seem to be able to see past the end of the bonnet! |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | quotePosted at 06:45 on 25th April 2013 I don't think I've fallen for anything Jason. Quite the oppposite really I would happily take you to hospitals where waste is rife, laziness is part of the days 'work', but I have to say that those lazy workers are not employed directly by the NHS and I think they should, they wouldn't get away with it then would they? It is top heavy, but I make the point that we very much appreciate the work that you guys do along with all others at the rough end. |
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