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quotePosted at 10:12 on 8th June 2008
Actually Lyn, I'm not particularly intelligent at all. Struggled through my school years with results from average to abysmal, which got me in trouble with my parents. Way too far late, I discovered I didn't have to be intelligent at all to get good marks on my report card. All I had to do was become a parrot, and not a very bright one at that, but in the end, I was one of those casualties of the education system known as a high school drop out, and thence came back to England.
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quotePosted at 20:19 on 8th June 2008
On 8th June 2008 09:34, Paul Hilton wrote:
Oh yes you are Lyn! You can't fool me keeping it hidden in a nicely wrapped package which seems to have been delivered to this forum at least 1,097 times now, and we've all had a peek inside!


WOW...that many times Paul eh? I better stop or I will be getting RSI lol

I was always told at school to stop talking and pay attention and that I resented correction thats probably why i've posted so much in here, I talk too much lol  Sealed

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quotePosted at 21:52 on 8th June 2008

Hi Lyn & Sue:  That's OK if you can't answer.  I was always a little geeky when it comes to geography.  That's why my hubby and I make such a good team.  I read the maps and then tell him where to go and we never get lost.  (I called him "Richard" (Bucket) the whole time we were over there. lol).  If it was the other way around, we'd be in trouble.Smile

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quotePosted at 21:56 on 8th June 2008
Thank you, Jo and Paul, for the radio links.  I will listen in.  Actually you can select a BBC station from anywhere in the UK using the links you provided.  That will be great.  The Trevor Fry show you recommended, Jo, I wll have to listen to at work, so I'll forward the link to my office.  Thanks again!
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quotePosted at 22:14 on 8th June 2008
On 8th June 2008 00:42, Paul Hilton wrote:

Well Ruth, I was educated in Colorado and certainly recall a lot of US history being taught, though very little about the state itself, unfortunately. but, they did leave out some bits that didn't quite fit the curriculum; for example----

Benjamin Franklin; well known for assorted things in history. but, on you map showing High wycombe, Bucks., Mr F was a visitor there when he was Post Master General, and his friend, Sir Francis Dashwood, ran the notorious Hell Fire Club there when Mr F and other friends did a bit of womanising during his UK visits. He was also a pormoter of taking so-called sun baths. Much of his Biography was written in Hampshire.

 

Looking lower down he map on the East Sussex coast, you'll find Bexhill-on-Sea and on the sea front is the De La Warr Pavilion, named after the Earl of De La Warr, who also happened to give the family name to the State of Delaware.

America's Civil War ( 1861-65) technically speaking, wasn't. It was America's 2nd Revolution if the words were used correctly. So, how did it end up being called a Civil War?

There's alsorts of US history things that get left out when being taught, or no one questions why this or that? Like--why are US bank notes full of Freemason's symbols in their design? There's US history there not even being noticed, probably.

 

 

Wow, Paul, where do I start here?  First are you an American who moved to England or a Brit who lived in the US for a while? 

From your comments I think it reiterates what I think we've all known all along.  We get spoon fed the stuff they want us to know, and God forbid anyone else gets the credit for the good and glorious stuff, like the US constitution being based on the Magna Carta, taking it to a new level.  (I got to see one of the originals of the Magna Carta in Salisbury Cathedral). That's some very interesting Ben Franklin trivia you posted - thanks!  I think I heard from some documentary that old Ben was quite the ladies' man.

As for the map references, I had to break out my atlas for the ones you mentioned.  The road map I have is for N. England and goes from the Scottish border to about as far south as Liverpool/Manchester/Sheffield.  So it's very detailed, which is maybe why it has the village of Brind.  There are a lot of English town names that made it over here, maybe with the term New added in front.  Unfortunately New York isn't anything like old York.  I know there's a Falmouth in Massachusetts, probably named after the one in Cornwall.

On the currency, are you referring to the eye over the pyramid?  Yes, I recently saw a documentary about the founding fathers, most of whom were freemasons, but a lot of the symbolism, which even supposedly dates back to the Knights Templar, is just a matter of speculation.  Or at least that's what they want us to know.  Undecided

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quotePosted at 22:16 on 8th June 2008
Lyn and Paul:  I think you're both very intelligent and I love chatting with you.  Kiss
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quotePosted at 13:37 on 9th June 2008

Ruth---I was born in Lancashire, but spent many, many happy years living in Colorado Springs and actually got a very good education there in the '60s, and many teachers taught their subjects interestingly enough for me to want to find out more. I emailled the current Principal about a year ago to thank the school for what they'd done all those years ago.

It was in my final year in Canada, boredom set in, and started to show in my grades. My Dad was in the Canadian Forces.

Ref another posting about Festus---met him once in Las Vegas while we were on vacation, but he looked a lot more like Ken Curtis, born in Colorado.  Lovely chatting with you as well; you'd be surprised at the memories you've brought back.

Intelligent? Lyn certainly is despite the lenghts she sometimes goes to, to try and hide it! Andy is very insightful with his observations he writes about, and Ron?  He's in a class of his own--and makes sure I double check my postings for punctuation, learnt the American way. As for myself, graduated in the class of 68 1/2. Unfortunately, nobody else was in it when I did. I've since tried to compensate for it one way or another, successfully or not. Kiss

 

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quotePosted at 15:12 on 9th June 2008
On 7th June 2008 20:56, Ruth Gregory wrote:

Quiet day on the POE today.  You must all be out and about enjoying your wonderful summers and long days.  All I can say is "Must be nice....."  This is the time of year we start cocooning where I live.

Today I took out my road map of N. England, and was mostly looking at the towns around you, Andy.  Yes, I can see you're very near York, you lucky dog!  But I ran across some geographical terms that I would like someone to explain, if you would be so kind.  Fen, Fell, Wold.   Don't know what any of these are - I suppose I could look them up, but I'm just too lazy today.  Besides I'd rather hear it from y'all.

I think there are fens in Massachusetts, aren't there, Diana?  I think Fenway Park was named after fens.  As for fells, the only fell I ever heard about was the one in Cats.  ".......the fiend of the fell."  Wold - no clue.

And a couple more for you, Andy.  A couple of your photos are labeled "Beverley plump."  Please explain.  Plump over here is usually preceded by the adjective "pleasingly."  Also please explain "Riding" as in East Riding of Yorkshire.  Why are't N, W,and S Yks also called Riding?

Thank you - Your very inquisitive friend, RG

 

hi ruth,

 

will TRY and give you an answer.  FENS...you will find alot of this in the cambridge area.  very flat area. would have been water logged at one time (Ely use to be an island).  WOLD i think is a wooded area, and FELL i think you would fine like if hiking over the hilltops. 

 

if i am wrong, hope someone can correct me.....


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Jo Adams
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quotePosted at 16:23 on 9th June 2008

Hi Ruth

You mentioned the Magna Carta in your post yesterday but did you know that at Runnymede (about six miles from Windsor) there is an acre of land belonging to the USA? 

"A Memorial Stone is set is an acre of green land given to the United States by Queen Elizabeth II in 1965 to commemorate the life of John F Kennedy..

"To get to the monument you have to climb a stone path of fifty steps, one for each year of his life."

Unfortunately I've searched through PoE and can't find any photos!  Maybe I'll look out my old photos and scan them in.

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quotePosted at 21:14 on 9th June 2008
On 8th June 2008 22:16, Ruth Gregory wrote:
Lyn and Paul: I think you're both very intelligent and I love chatting with you. Kiss
Aww what a lovely thing to say Ruth, thanks. I'm not that intelligent but I'm good at pretending LOL Wink

Jo.... Re: Magna Carta...I didn't know that! just goes to show one never stop learning no matter how old and decrepit one is lolTongue out .
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