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lancashirelove Posts: 1986 Joined: 18th Feb 2009 Location: UK	quotePosted at 14:05 on 27th February 2009 Elephants are making a come-back to the circus ring in Nottingham today. i didnt used to have a problem with that until i saw the way they,re trained on a clip on You Tube's site elephant training, What are your thoughts gang? My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Cathy E. Posts: 8474 Joined: 15th Aug 2008 Location: USA	quotePosted at 14:18 on 27th February 2009 Michael, can you give us a link so we can see how they train the elephants. If it is anything cruel I am totally against it. (Also I left you a reply in User introductions) My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Diana Sinclair Posts: 10119 Joined: 3rd Apr 2008 Location: USA	quotePosted at 14:19 on 27th February 2009 Oh! Don't get me started on animal rights, Michael. I have very strong opinions about this, and I can't even bear to hear about what's done to these magnificent creatures. I absolutely despise circuses and traditional zoos, etc. I will not attend them. A number of years ago there was an incident where an elephant turned on its trainer and killed him. The elephant was hanged by the neck from a railcar-mounted industrial crane off the deck of a ship. Can you imagine? We take wild animals from their natural habitat and try to domesticate them, or worse, turn them into commodities for our own selfish gain, and then we have the nerve to subject them to the same judicial laws that we would condemn a thinking human being by; as if these animals premeditated their alleged crimes. OMG!!! I can feel my blood boiling! I don't care what a wild animal does to a human being, it is not morally or ethically accountable for it's actions. My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Barbara Shoemaker Posts: 1764 Joined: 4th Jan 2008 Location: USA	quotePosted at 14:28 on 27th February 2009 I wholeheartedly agree with you, Diana. We were meant to be caretakers of the animals of Creation, not use and abuse them for our own selfish purposes. My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Diana Sinclair Posts: 10119 Joined: 3rd Apr 2008 Location: USA	quotePosted at 14:46 on 27th February 2009 Thank you, Barbara. It's nice to get a little validation. As strongly as I feel about animal abuse, you'd think I'd be an activist. But honestly, I get so angry, I think I'd end up killing someone! At the very least they'd be hauling me off to the clanker for assault and battery every other day! LOL!!! My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
lancashirelove Posts: 1986 Joined: 18th Feb 2009 Location: UK	quotePosted at 15:58 on 27th February 2009 On 27th February 2009 14:18, Catherine England Schleunes wrote: Michael, can you give us a link so we can see how they train the elephants. If it is anything cruel I am totally against it. (Also I left you a reply in User introductions) Hi cath. i hav,nt got a link but if you go onto your web home page, type in you tube. on 'you tube' the link home videos, type in elephant training and a selection will appear, just clik on the pic. (Not pretty) My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Shirley K. Lawson Posts: 2310 Joined: 17th Jul 2008 Location: USA	quotePosted at 18:45 on 27th February 2009 Have you people seen the clip on the "painting"elephants over in India, I never knew they were real picasso's with an brush haning on to their trunks..unitl I saw that video clip...think it was las tsummer it was going around the internet. My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Stephanie Jackson Posts: 3911 Joined: 13th Apr 2008 Location: UK	quotePosted at 19:34 on 27th February 2009 I don't agree with the circuses doing this - I do not like circuses and will never go - but I will say that some zoos and safari parks are doing so much for conservation. In alot of the animals own countries some of the people from those countries hunt the animals for monetary gain and that is one of the reasons we have so many endangered species. We are going to Dudley Zoo tomorrow. In the old days this was a very sad place to go but now they have built safe and large areas for the animals to roam free and have won conservation awards. The bigger animals were transferred to large safari parks and again these amimals have a safe and happy life roaming around and breeding future generations without fear of the hunters. My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Jason T Posts: 7421 Joined: 14th Apr 2004 Location: UK	quotePosted at 21:10 on 27th February 2009 I HATE animal circuses!! I love elephants, well all animals really, i hate the idea of them having to do stupid things just to entertain stupid people!! I know what you mean about Dudley zoo Steph, its actually pretty good now, they really have cleaned their act up!! I've been a few times. My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
lancashirelove Posts: 1986 Joined: 18th Feb 2009 Location: UK	quotePosted at 21:16 on 27th February 2009 i dont have a problem with big zoos and safari parks but to have animals in traveling cages and performing tricks is not natural. the only way to get a 'wild' animal to submit to you and do tricks is to make it fear you or its going to get punished. this usiualy starts with a 'physical encounter'. for the want of a better phrase. My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions