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Sue H Posts: 8172 Joined: 29th Jun 2007 Location: USA | quotePosted at 23:33 on 3rd March 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/cambridgeshire/7922107.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/tayside_and_central/7921262.stm Just two articles from a choice of too many. So many sad things in the news, but sustained attacks on such innocent, helpless little ones is heartbreaking. I know children have been dying at the hands of parents for many years, but certainly it seems to have grown over these last few years. Do you think that the availability of drugs is exacerbating these attacks on our precious children?
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Paul Hilton Posts: 2605 Joined: 21st Nov 2004 Location: UK | quotePosted at 01:29 on 4th March 2009 I do wonder what on earth the world is comming to in these tragic cases and parents who seem to have no concience in what they do. The recent so-called " Baby Grace" case in Galveston, Tx. I had the misfortune to stumble across and was heartbreaking to read of the evidence proferred in the murder of a 2 year old girl and the rest of what had gone on by her parents. Well, they're not really parents in the normal sense of the word. |
Stephanie Jackson Posts: 3911 Joined: 13th Apr 2008 Location: UK | quotePosted at 07:17 on 4th March 2009 I think you are right Sue - drugs do play a part in this. Also the downward slide in moral values and the loss of religion in people's lives doesn't help the situation. The old expression "the fear of God" did used to hold some weight with people. The tradition family has mostly gone now and alot of the men who carry out these attacks are not the natural fathers. I know some wonderful caring step fathers who love their step children like their own children but the type of "mother" mentioned above flit from one man to another without a care for their children's welfare or safety getting pregnant by every one she meets so she can get more money for drugs off the state and get a better house paid for by the taxpayer. Gordon Brown wanted to eradicate child poverty (a noble gesture I'm sure) so he has given them even more money to buy drink, drugs & cigarettes and the children are still not cared for - or even worse for some of them, terrible abuse at the hands of these animals. What do the "do gooder" judges do - reduce the sentences from murder to "culpable homicide" or manslaughter. It really makes my blood boil. |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | quotePosted at 08:00 on 4th March 2009 I agree with all that has been said Sue, Paul, Stephanie and put the blame on the parents who are children themselves and who are having babies way too early! The lack of parenting skills from the 'child parents' parents, combined with drugs and alcohol which are/is apparently easy to get nowadays and a no work stay at home, the state will pay us culture is adding to the problem. If I were in charge of stabilizing the situation, I would pass laws making it illegal to have a child under the age of 18 years, and therefore those who did fall pregnant would be forced into abortion. Thinks.....there, that should create some flak!! |
Diana Sinclair Posts: 10119 Joined: 3rd Apr 2008 Location: USA | quotePosted at 18:32 on 4th March 2009 These and other stories like them are heart-breaking! I have no doubt that you are right Sue, and that drugs play a large part. The other (and forgive me for blowing the moral trumpet) is a general lack of respect for responsible sexuality. Many of these people have no business having children but they either don't know how, or don't care to follow safe sex practices, which in my opinion includes birth control. I know where my own church (Roman Catholic) stands on the birth control issue but frankly, I'd rather see the prevention of unwanted children in the form of responsible birth control, than to witness the brutality and death of one more innocent child. |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | quotePosted at 18:54 on 4th March 2009 Agree entirely Diana, but how does it get implemented? |
Diana Sinclair Posts: 10119 Joined: 3rd Apr 2008 Location: USA | quotePosted at 19:01 on 4th March 2009 Well, I am sure to open a can of worms with this one, Ron. So let me preface what I have to say with the statement that I total respect everyone's personal beliefs and their right to believe it, however, what I am about to say will be highly disagreeable to many. To answer your question Ron; I think it starts with educating the masses to think for themselves rather than turning their minds and their better judgement over to the church magistrates...which ever church it happens to be.
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Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | quotePosted at 20:46 on 4th March 2009 >>>what I am about to say will be highly disagreeable to many. I don't think so, what about you members? |
Gives Up! ' Posts: 1934 Joined: 30th Apr 2005 Location: UK | quotePosted at 21:43 on 4th March 2009 Oh gawd, don't get me started! I'm sick of these feral kids from parents who are just as wild. I live by so many of the devils. In the UK, it seems to be the worse you are the better you are looked after. I know what I'd do if I was in number 10.....
I'm best off not saying any more...... |
Shirley K. Lawson Posts: 2310 Joined: 17th Jul 2008 Location: USA | quotePosted at 02:09 on 8th March 2009 Many are dying due to adult or parental neglect these days..sad. Two little girls aged 1 and 3 died last night because their drunken father took them out in 58 below degree weather with only an huggie diaper and an T-shirt on...I haven't heard all the particulars about this one as of yet..sad though...wonder where the mother was at. Let's hope it was just an hoax someone put out. |