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Jason T Posts: 7421 Joined: 14th Apr 2004 Location: UK | quotePosted at 15:11 on 26th May 2009 Very true, but that goes for all of us, nobody knows what baggage we all carry around with us, but one thing for sure, we all carry a lot of it round!! I am light hearted about a lot of things that maybe i shouldn't be, but thats just me! doesn't mean i don't care!! i've stopped a lot of people killing themselves. Sad thing is, if someone wants to do it, they do it!! they don't ask for help, they don't call for us, they don't take an overdose then go to hospital!! they just do it, in a place they won't be found!! these are the sad ones!! anybody over here can get help if they feel suicidal, we see the ones that are constantly calling us, we help all we can they go to hospital and see crisis teams, but the still call us again and again, there comes a point nobody can help, they have to help themselves, and if they can't its too bad!! sounds harsh i know, but its life. Threatening to jump off a bridge at rush hour is selfish!! think of all the kids that saw that!! think of al lthe others that has harmed, he knew he wouldn't be left to do it, and knew somebody would come to 'save' him, of hoped!! he could have gone to the dr's, or hospital, or even ambulance, he chose to be dramatic! |
Diana Sinclair Posts: 10119 Joined: 3rd Apr 2008 Location: USA | quotePosted at 15:12 on 26th May 2009 Cathy! |
Jason T Posts: 7421 Joined: 14th Apr 2004 Location: UK | quotePosted at 15:15 on 26th May 2009 Your right Diana, i have a friends that have been affected by suicides, and i've seen the other side of it, also seen train drivers etc... after the event!! it kills a lot of people when somebody takes their own life!! |
lancashirelove Posts: 1986 Joined: 18th Feb 2009 Location: UK | quotePosted at 15:21 on 26th May 2009 someone who works for the social services that I know told me that they were once on suicide watch over a male 'client', when he decided to 'do a runner'. They chased after him and he threatened to jump off a motorway bridge. as one of them carefully approaced him he jumped but the 'minder' manged to catch hold of his arm but sadly couldnt hold him. this caused him to swing landing on a grass verge instead of the busy carriage way, breaking his leg in the fall. When he recovered, he sued the social service for causing him to break his leg. He won his case. They are now instructed not to challenge anyone in a simular situation and leave it to 'trainde' negotiators. lol |
Jason T Posts: 7421 Joined: 14th Apr 2004 Location: UK | quotePosted at 15:23 on 26th May 2009 Yeah i can well believe that Michael, its a sad society!! hey your avatar has gone missing!!!! your looking a little green Michael!! |
Diana Sinclair Posts: 10119 Joined: 3rd Apr 2008 Location: USA | quotePosted at 15:24 on 26th May 2009 On 26th May 2009 15:15, Jason T wrote:
I also agree with your take on the selfishness of public suicides in general. Clearly, (for the most part, there are always exceptions) these people don't really want to kill themselves they are just crying for attention and help. But it's a hard thing for others to have to witness, especially children. I admire you for the work you do Jason. Thank you. |
Krissy Posts: 15430 Joined: 8th Jul 2008 Location: USA | quotePosted at 15:25 on 26th May 2009 Those who just cry wolf are perhaps the lucky ones?? Lucky for the families and friends. They got the help they needed. Those who went unseen, are gone. Heartbreaking for the familes....wishing they paid more attention. This is what my parents wrestle with everyday. Jason...I totally understand where you are coming from though. |
Ruth Gregory Posts: 8072 Joined: 25th Jul 2007 Location: USA | quotePosted at 15:26 on 26th May 2009 When you first read about something like this, and while it's just a "story", yes, it seems pretty humorous. It's when you really think about it and put the human face on it that it becomes a sad story. And you're right, Cathy, unless you've walked in another person's moccasins...... Lots of people take their lives in quiet desparation. They're the ones who complete suicide and if there were cries for help prior to their deaths, they were either ignored or badly handled. The people who try to make these public spectacles are just as troubled, but are actually crying out to be noticed and helped. I hope the poor guy gets the help he needs. And they guy who pushed him got "lucky" too, but should face charges, IMHO.
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Cathy E. Posts: 8474 Joined: 15th Aug 2008 Location: USA | quotePosted at 15:27 on 26th May 2009 Jason, when you are in a state like that you can't think rational. I know you are a very caring person. Everybody deals with their issues in different ways. It is so great that you can be so lighthearted. You probably had wonderful parents who taught you to be that way. I was unfortunate in my upbringing. I did once take an overdose in high school and afterwards thought what the heck am I doing so went and told a teacher. They never even told my parents!! I used to sneak out of the house to get counseling. Everyone's situation is different. You have to treat them all as unique as they are. When Elsie was 4 years old we had so much turmoil in our family, moving to a new house, my grandfather in law passed away, had an abusive husband and mother in law. I was in so much pain emotionally that I couldn't think straight anymore. I sat in the car with it running in the garage hoping to take the pain away. I was pulled out of the car and brought in the house. When I came in and saw Elsie's face I was so heart broken. Then it hit me how selfish I was.
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lancashirelove Posts: 1986 Joined: 18th Feb 2009 Location: UK | quotePosted at 15:29 on 26th May 2009 hi jason, i tried to upload a different one yesterday but it wasnt having it lol |