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Shirley K. Lawson
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quotePosted at 20:46 on 4th November 2009
Be angry at the men that do these things, not the victims they chose to extort please, then try to do something to stop it... if you get the opportunity.
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Diana Sinclair
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quotePosted at 22:55 on 4th November 2009

Debbie and Peter pretty much summed up my opinion on this as well.

Unlike you, Debbie, I only "feel" for these girls up until the moment they chose to treat their infants like trash. After that they lose my respect and my sympathy. They deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If the child dies as a result, then they are murderers and should be treated accordingly.

In many such cases the mothers are strung out on drugs. Even so, you can't convince me that they don't know the difference between a door step and a rubbish bin.

As has been pointed out by others, here in the US there is a policy that infants can be left on the doorstep of a hospital, police or fire station with no questions asked. The is no excuse for dumping a child into the garbage.

 

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Debbie Adams
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quotePosted at 00:54 on 5th November 2009

I do feel sorry for the girls if they are pimped out or raped( but even still thay to can have free medical care for themselves and the baby) but from what we know of these girls that this has happened to around here they are young and just having sex and not caring what happens after that!! And I agree Peter if you are uneducated or on drugs thats no excuse what so ever thats just another problem and these girls could have proper medical care if they just went to the hosp!! I am sorry i just dont understand it and never will and i think they should be prosecuted and maybe it will make others think twice about doing something like that!  One girl here actually had a healthy baby boy and left it in the toliet of a gas station and it died from drowning!! they are still looking for her, they have a not so clear picture of here on a security camera,, i mean its murder!!!! Ok i will get off the subject Thanks to all of you for posting your thoughts;)))

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Stephanie Jackson
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quotePosted at 07:16 on 5th November 2009
After all the pain of childbirth how could they just throw away a baby in the rubbish. We are not just talking uneducated here we are talking about people with no feelings or morals. Like Debbie said whatever happened to leaving the child in a basket on the steps of the police station or hospital.
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Richard Sellers
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quotePosted at 18:49 on 5th November 2009
This is just too sad..........i dont know what to say,,,it hurts..
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Shirley K. Lawson
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quotePosted at 03:37 on 6th November 2009
I hate to say this but "kids" don' t use wise judgements in emergency situations...full of fear...they often make bad choices. They are to young to be dealing with such grown up issues. An "adult" out having sex would know to protect themself..."kids" don't.
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lancashirelove
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quotePosted at 09:18 on 6th November 2009

Tough one this! Which side of the fence to come down on.

Sometimes these kids are frightened of what their parents (or thier society) will say or do if they are found to be pregnant. depends on their upbringing, religion or even country they live in. The mother could be young, old, married, unmarried, rich, or poor. She could come from a very strict upbringing or were thier relgoius beleifs will make them outcasts.

It certainly is wrong to 'dump' babies born in this way wether still-born or not, but the state of mind of the mother must be in turmiol to make her dispose of her 'birth' in this way. She probely isnt thinking straight due to the situation she finds herself in. mmmm!

 

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Diana Sinclair
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quotePosted at 14:41 on 6th November 2009

You take a more merciful view of this than I do, Michael.

While I understand your words, I can not find sympathy for them. It's not like they found themselves pregnant and had only minutes or days to make a decision.

They had nine months to seek help and to think about what they would do. The no questions asked policy in the states makes it particularly disturbing that a young woman (and some not so young) would still make the choice to throw an infant in the trash.

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Debbie Adams
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quotePosted at 00:37 on 7th November 2009
I agree Diana,, I am just saying if they go through the whole 9 months and deliver why not take that baby to the hosp or fire dept and leave it and give that baby a chance and no one would have to know. I do not understand how a human no matter what age can look at a baby and not have some feelings of love or care enough for it to try to get help for it???? same thing goes for ppl hurting animals how and why??? just dont get it;((((
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Debbie Adams
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quotePosted at 00:39 on 7th November 2009
BTW---RON why didnt you fix my spelling?? Opinion(opion)??LOL didnt notice it until today i guess to much anger in my eyes,,:)))))Wink
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