Well, there you have it!!

I almost agree with you Mike!

The only real difference between us is that I say it was the previous muppets at number 10 that allowed it all to happen!!

Nice to see you back.

British hardware for sale!

 (1)HMS Ark Royal- (last of the British Carriers) Not had any aircraft for 3 years. Two new ones being built beecause its too costly to cancel contract. one will be sold on completion, the other wont have any aircraft for ten years)

(2) Fleet of ex British assorted used war ships. (job lot)

(3) Job lot of ex British Harrier Jump Jets plus all spares.

(4) Job lot of ex-British Tornado fighter/bombers, some used, combat proven.

(5) Sale of ex British air fields and bases, (some overseas) plus equipment, various lots.

(All above offered with fully trained crews and service staff, if required) 

(6) Battlefield tanks and hardware (make good garden features) 

(7) Battle trained Army personel (10,000), Make good mercenaries etc  

 For full detais of sale, contact MOD, London, England

Oh and the lastest news flash, The Nimrod has been also canceled, that means if we get into dificulties at sea, theres not much chance of search and rescue. The nimrod also protects our fishing fleets and Nuke subs so I suppose they'll be grounded. And what about our 'Scottish' friends neighbours and small businesses dependant on the bases these kites operate from. On the news this lunchtime a serving jump-jet pilot asked the PM if he'll loose his job, the PM 'thanked' him for his past valiant service but didnt answer the question.

I remember back in the Falklands crises, The 'Argies' only had one aircraft carrier (named The 25th May) which they had bought off us, they didnt bring it out of port in case we sank it.

Our present Government says we need to change our defensive strategy to fight a 'cyber' enemy. Get real, have you been playing too many computor games, what do we do in a 'real' war, send the bankers to fight for us, and if we are attacked at home, do we hit them with our keyboards.

But Mike the Nimrod was virtually finished anyway and wasn't there a situation where it's safety was questioned?

Keep your keyboard handy! Lol

I wrote an post and it was taken away from me before I could post it...but the

main message was your people fighting today's war on an ship is like an

comptuer game to be played and killed instanteously with the techonolgy out

in the world these days. They would never scrap something they feel was an

effective military defense. Today's war will be deadly invisible to most people

to how its fought and won or lost....thousands of miles away....most likely

from space.

I believe these were Ronald Reagans thoughts back in the 70's werent they?. (remember the 'doomed' US starwars programme? The facts are that since then, the planet earth has had several conflics and still we are fighting 'wars' in the same fashion as we did hundreds of years ago, so there will always be the need for 'conventional' equipment, unless you start throwing 'nukes' around and end everything for everybody.

Ron, I loved the Nimrod, having been in the RAF at its conception. The 'new' version is almost complete and its equipment that was being developed, second to none. It plays a vital part in our early warning radar capability protecting both the UK, Canadian and the US from 'backdoor' attack. It also guards our submarine fleet and provides search and rescue co-ordination to civil, fishing and military users in the North Atlantic. It creates employment, both high and medium engineering skills in the north/midlands were our aircraft are built and a living for an whole community of people at its now 'doomed' base in Kinloss up in Scotland.

Make it into an floating museum...and don't disarm it in its equiptment if you don't have to.

They have done that with several ships over here in order to keep them...true you don't have the milatary on board...but it could still be used if needed in an war time emergency.  Have you ever read the book written

called "This HAARP" is not for you"...you should its about today's technologies.