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Cathy E. Posts: 8474 Joined: 15th Aug 2008 Location: USA | quotePosted at 19:21 on 22nd August 2011 Shirley, My Mum and Brother live on the outskirts of Gettysburg. We are always going there shopping, to the doctor, eating, etc. I have been on one of the ghost Walks but wasn't lucky enough to see any ghosts. Maybe next time. I am hoping to have someone visiting me soon and plan on taking them to Gettysburg to see the sites. They have a nice new visitor's center too. |
Dave John Posts: 22335 Joined: 27th Feb 2011 Location: England | quotePosted at 19:29 on 22nd August 2011 Well you make sure you have great time, from the liitle bits i've picked up in the forums you deserve it. . . |
James Prescott Posts: 25952 Joined: 11th Jan 2010 Location: UK | quotePosted at 19:45 on 22nd August 2011 i think shirley had something to do with the "address" |
Cathy E. Posts: 8474 Joined: 15th Aug 2008 Location: USA | quotePosted at 20:03 on 22nd August 2011 Thank you so much Dave. That means a lot to me. I think so too James!! |
Posts: Joined: 1st Jan 1970 | Catherynml......This Davis family has already been written up by an family line back east...they say that an doctor Thomas Davis was our Elizabeth Davis kin...and they have it very well represented and I don't "buy it"..firstly...because Eliza Keith(REv. James Keith)..m. Mr. Berry...became the wife (of the Rev. Samuel Davis line) in Va...of his oldest son named Joshua Davis said killed at the battle of King's Mountain during the Rev War...she then married James Glenn. Kentucky has Eliza Ann Glenn as the grand-daughter of Col. Fauntleroy...out of Harrodsburg, Ky. Though I have not seen the information first hand...she listed in his will there. Firstly our family comes by the way of the Reed/Read out of New Jersey...James Keith first landed in New Jersey and was sent back to Scotland/England to get his ordaination papers for Rev. Samuel Davis...when he came back...he went to Fauquier County, Va. after and stint of being the preacher at Bruton Parish church. Rev. Samuel Davis after founding Princeton University...ONLY son supposedly...marries Elizabeth Boyd and moves to Augusta Co., Va. Him and his wife are killed by Indians...and another son John Davis raises his parents siblings. When Florence Larkins was alive she sent me the "papers" of the historical work by an Mrs. Margaret Daunt...with our Salsibury Line whom went in person to the cemetary at the time. The Cemetary is now "gone"... they took stone rubbings as we did out here, and family information. Florence asked me to keep them at the time. I wondered at the time "why" but now I think I know..she knew I'd be open minded about things. We know that Elizabeth Davis and Sarah Ann Davis are kin, it is suggested that Sarah Ann Davis could been an child by Elizabeth Davis in these papers, but they don't know how. Sarah Ann Davis is our direct kin to the Larkins family by his first marriage. The family back east supplied the information that Elizabeth was widowed by this Thomas Davis. I have three Thoms Davis in my files...one was an rougue preacher kicked out of his ministry for working on the Sabbath day, down south, the second was the Rev. to George Washington family, the third is an ferrymanin Virginia. I would be more inclined to say this family comes as close to the Samuel Davis line...bu ton we go with my story....the Keith family of Fauquier Co., Va. left an sketchy lineage...where an Elizabeth Marshall married an Abraham Martin in it, kin of the famous Chief US justice Marshall at one time. On line they also "argue" over that of the name of Elizabeth and Eliza Ann. I have immigration papers of both Eliza Barry/Berry and Eliza Ann Davis in records later on....I feel the Elizabeth Davis is someone else. I find "Joshua Davis" at the beginning of the REv. War in papers out of New Jersey, maybe he was visting his grandfather? That's th elast I see him, until we come ot an namesake grandson apparently by Samuel Davis..an yonger one.I have an 1790 census of Virginia near Augusta Co., Va with an Eliza Davis and two young women. Our Elizabeth Davis married the Rev. Bruce Chenoweth..whose first wife was named Payne out of Virginia...just north of Augusta Co., Va. The rubbings off the Cemetary where our Sarah Ann Davis is buried as an birthdate refers back to John Davis of Pittsylvania Co., Va...an area that was given to those soldiers whom fought in the Rev. War as land grants. Since I have started this work and it's out of the bag mor eor less...someone follows me around constantly making trouble in these lineages for some reason...I would guess "for control"...they have written up this John Davis as an "slave master" type forman...I have his as an MIll operator in my papers...for an long tme now...and do remember his father was an Reverand...as would be Eliza Keith.There were two things I noted going back in person for data...one I wish I'd kept and didn't...it was an early "map" of the region...it was an Fort Davis...that looked like an secured family home more then an 'Fort"as was custom of the day in frontier areas. It was not mentioned in any of their history. One reason I didn't take an copy of the map. it should by all rights be in papers in Washington DC. area...Ok, Alexandria. Now...my next finding of the where abouts of Elia Ann Davis is when an lawyer of William Smith does an Rev. War pension application for Joshua Davis, supposedly dead....according to his son/brother. I know at this time that only men could own or do business in any way, which is probably the "tie" to John Davis. The Smith family are the maternal lines to the Chenoweth family. The Chenoweth lines out of Maryland...are traveling iwth John Roger Clark. They help to found Harrodsburg, Ky. The Smith family according to "Chakley's Jounral" court minutes adopts James Lawson...older one then previous mentioned as his son...Major John Smith was killed at "Vauses Fort" French and Indian Raid. Later Samuel Davis, yonger one is taken prsioner by the Cherokee....and you see Eliza Ann Davis writing letters to Col. William Blount..whom is sent to Tenneeseeby Washington as an Indian treaty maker in part, but also to thwart off impending attacks...and to secure the state of Franklin to become Tennessee. Well, so goes, they like Samuel Davis and an Samuel Handley/Haily so much they chose them to represent them at the treaty...where upon Samuel Davis is released later on and goes to work for Col. Blount as his aide. Out of Kentucky is an Samuel Davis whom says that he was born in Illinois country. Eliza Ann Glenn shows up there also later on...years later with her Glenn family and one of them marries into our Larkins family also. I still maintain that Sarah Ann and Elizabeth Davis were siters and daughter's of Eliza Ann DAvis. I am now beign told they are kin of Pocahantas these days by another side doing the Native Americans. It makes sense to me that this affilation with Col. William Blount and after his death that the younger Sam'l Davis would go to the frontier...and in this area was the Patowmie(sp? Indians..whom never fought the whites into their area...as represented by Chief Sactwine. An Elenor Bussell was thier historian back there...and she was an Strawn family member and Col. John Strawn one of the first there, was selling land grants and making them for the military supposedly. She could kind of say anything she wanted to about past history. They do all agree that our family was one of the first there...though if Eleanor is still alive, which I doubt...that's been changed...they don't mention them hardly at all any more, they took it from us and supplied another person's name instead..I would guess because our family never stayed in the area, and she had written up that Col. John Strawn was an uncle of Racheal Reed's (Read)..and why my ancestor moved there from Ohio. Now back to the destroyed cmemtary in the area, the papers I have say that the original cemetary was known as that of the Rev. Edward Chenworth...wife of Mary Wison, moved later to Berkley Co., Va...now West Va. Being I knew that our James Larkins was born 1794 in Tennessee...some say "Smith County"...I asked my Lawson's whom ran an historical Society back there if they could find reference of an "Edward Chenoweth"...they sent me back an 1794 land grant with his name on it out of "Lackey's Creek" area. There is an Rev. War pension for an James Larkin out of Harrison Co., West Virginia that looks to me to been an "professional" soldier, though my friend tells me "Indian Guide or Interpreter" would be more like it. We seem to be dealign with two James larkin, one an older one and one an younger one....one is an son of I think the William Larkin traveling with Thomas and John Lawson settling up Forts for George Washington. They are looking like brothers but may not be.I have on this William Larkin in Tyler's quarterly....that his three oldest sons are Thomas, JOhn and James. I question why no son William....unless..he's the Methodist minister killed in 1794...in which case he may not been mentioned though the will was made in 1778 or such. At any rate...Thomas Larkins is I think the Methodist preacher m. Elizabeth Martin one report...Ellis in another report...and becomes one of the "three Bishops" of early Methodism...and has an son known as Thomas W. Larkins in Pennsylvania. John Larkins m. Sarah McAdoo/Mc Adow in Tennesee. James may be our older James Larkin out of West Virgina...but there are other possibilites also. I'm not done researching James lackey as of yet. I also have not ruled out that he is not "James Leni Lape"...kin of an Delaware Indian Chief...and Reed's(Read's) lived in their territory and he was an close freind and advisor of George Washington..or that he was the grandson of Col. James Martin of Somerset Co., Penn...taken hostage and raised by the indians. One reason I am sticking to the Tennessee Larkins long time claim our family was "Masonic Lodge" members in doing research work. I laso have an James Lukens...that was killed by Indians at one time. But another apect right now...and in the meantime, my work is "fogotten" by the family back east...whom claim our Davis line is an Thomas Davis..if only I could find BEYOND what I am TOLD...heh.I can not find him beyond this Rev. of George Washington's. in the area in records so far, bu twhat they have supplied as "data" and none of it "fits" with my Lawson family so far either really. My freind..non-Lawson says that she feels that before Harrodsburg, Ky was named as such its the "Fort Chenoweth" mentioned in an old time legacy I have of related families in and national genelaogy book. Richard Cheoweth was one of the first into the area...he was with George Rogers Clark...and I have an John Larkins with Clark as an "sharpshooter" in military records of Western Pennsylvania...I think the one that married Sarah McAdoo. Srgt. John Larkins was in John Murray's regiment out of Augusta Co., Va. Murry's married the Lewis's... whom married the Sherill's...whom are already an line in the Barlow kin out here previously. it's this Sherill line and the Lewis line we have lost data on because of the Indian skirmish's in Va. AS far as this DAR James Larkins goes...his family lines as claimed are not what I'm seeing by other people in records. So far we only have two real possibilties for children. AS to "Seth larkins" his brother....when I looked up Joshua Davis before the Rev. war I also picked up on an "Seth Robeson"...not Robinson...this name goes into the "Roberts" Larkins line in Kentucky....suposedly "Seth" has the family bible or will if we could ever find it...if it exists. I last left him in southern MIssouri also. If any body has any ideas on any of this..please let me know. I havesome of my Lawson's as much "tories" as I do "patriots" during the Rev. War. those that were moneyed back then had much to lose by the Rev. War era...like th eNative Americans during the Trail of Tears..... they hid out to NOT be found. Whci does not help my cause of finding them much. |
Sk Lawson Posts: 4014 Joined: 7th Oct 2010 Location: USA | quotePosted at 20:45 on 22nd August 2011 Cathryn...copy this information...keep it... and then take out the whole posting..... to save the bandwidth in the thread here and not be so costly perhaps. |
Posts: Joined: 1st Jan 1970 | Ok you people...to let you know how truly hard work this is..firstly we have Rosalie Pleis...whom wants to be "first" in our lives of genealogist's...and family "controller"....I think she's the person started some of my mispelling and is the one following me around making me look totally inadequate in this work...she tries to do it to others...but they simply leave her to herself with their own web sites, and bouncing back to her what she gives out...something I can not do...her information is well posted so she looks incredably proficient herself. I see as I suspected that there is now on line an bio of William E. Larkins...and it starts with his second wife listed as the first marriage to Jeremiah R. Larkins...only the well and hard fought "truth" will prevail by some that are not in this for control these days. As to this DAR James Larkins...the one that married Catherine Krieder Gerlinger. I thought maybe they had perhaps "two" of his kids correct...not so apparently. He has an "Betsey" or Elizabeth of Harrison Co., Ohio married to an Joshua Cook on their DAR legacy papers. I have now showing up an Joshua Cook married to an Martha MacNeal Sept 1785/86 in Somersset Co., Pa. ..she is Not listed as an Larkins...but an Larkin there. I found in Fayette Co., Kentucky an "Betsy" Cook...has an sibling named Seth Cook...whom above James Larkins says is kinship name as "Seth"and this lady dies in Fayette Co., Ky in 1838...and I can't acess her will so far. I was told that James whom married "Betsy"came to Ohio from Washington Co, Pa before 1813 in ohter data... So far I can not find anyone there of that name...in that locale at the date correctly to be him. Some more "made up" genealogy...as you know that's what's going on these days, and making me get out of much of this work.. How would you feel if you were told that Prince Charles married his aunt perhaps? Or better yet, he can't be marrying anyone without your "OK" first. Sometime back, rather then listing me as "another person" in her renditions of the family...Rosalie wrote up something, and changed what I said to reflect how she "felt" it should be.. and then left me no way to say..".I didn't write that". So you can imagine how I feel being told our complete lineage of what she feels as to being the truth. Esp. in reguard to this Thomas Davis lineage...and that Elizabeth Davis started out as an David Eaton daughter. Cause of my weight problem?...Always an " Eaton" by the family controller.. Ha! She did something else the peeved me off also concerning my Great Aunt Katherine O'Cana....who originally got me into this hellish work many years ago to have to deal with such people. I had been writing notes back and forth for some time to both Aunt Kay as I called her..and her neice "Pat"...and I never heard of them ever mention Rosalie. I didn't know who she was until after Great Aunt Kay passed on...and she claimed an inheirtence from her.I didn't go down to California to buy what items I could from Great Aunt Kay because she more or less told us all that the Masonic Lodge whom provided her most anything she needed..tha .it would be given back to them when she passed on, and I figured to "Pat" most likely there after. In short...I just wasn't feeling greedy enough I guess....I thought more about my Great Aunt then her posessions.When Pat asked me if there was anything I "wanted" of my Great Aunts...I asked for her family pictures and her genealogy work so someday maybe I could keep her memory alive with them. Pat, not only honored the request, she sent some of her family and all the relatives she could that she had...just as Florence Larkins gave me these "papers" on Jeremiah's first wife Sarah Ann Davis....and told me that family was now borrowing her data an not returning it...and I said then, if I have any of your things you want back, you let me know..cause there's things known as "Xerox" machines these days...and she said no...I want you to keep these things. You might need them later on...maybe Rosalie was borrowing off of her also..at any rate, I mentioned one time I had never heard of her before...and she replied by making up an few pages of correspondence in letters of way back when they called my Great Aunt "Kitty" to make it sound like they were the "closest" of friends...which is almost simliar to the so called "boyfriend" Pat had named "Bob" when she died. Bob who? and I had talked her on the phone 5 days earlier. Wrote to her constantly. She never mentioned any boyfriend. We would of never known about her death either had it not been her Hispanic Housekeeper remembered Maxine in North Carolina and called her..and she called me...my answer "What?...you gotta be kidding!..."Yes, she was going to the hosptial she told me in her last phone call to have some small growths taken off...that were suppose to be beign tumors. I told her then that the lady administrator of our Nursing home had them taken off all the time..."piece of cake" and I'd call the next day...when I called the hospital...they said "Bob" brought her in with pnuemonia and she died that evening. I said then, Bob who? and to this day I've never found out "Bob's" last name. Last I heard from Maxine (cousin in thier generation) she was going back to Florida where her hubby worked as an police chief in his eary days in Miami to see if we could find out who "Bob" is. But anyway. When I run across the newest "lies".... it really gets to me. There are so many of them floating around these days any more it'st hard to have the time to sift through most of them...not to mention nasty remarks I get and the hands being held out for money to know my bloodlines. That is why I was asking Cathyml to read some of this stuff and give me her impression on leads to possible research someday perhaps. Pat was precious to me...she was there when my own mother passed away and I had no one in ways...and she told me she knew how I'd felt because she lost her mother early in her life(I was pregnant with my first baby)...and were it not for my Great Aunt and uncle, she's not had anyone to go to either. Great Aunt Kay I could talk with about wordly things, arts and the refinements in life and goings on...and she turned out right on Pres. Nixon also and watergate...his associates were not breaking in for politcal papers...they were breaking in to get the papers of him dealing with Howard Huges in payoffs...to stopping under Las Vegas military testing so Howard could make it into an mega gambling cascino city. He directed Nixon to turn them toward off shore Alaska instead.So her advice that sometimes amoung the high and mighty, things are not always what they seem to be... was correct. Now...perhaps this should be taken off as an post also. I guess you could say I've kind of had my "say" on things now that "irk" me these days. Things are so muddled up any more, I find it impossible to do this work most the time. But I know enough after 30 years...I know when something isn't correct..I might not know the whole story...but..well...I go for now. |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | quotePosted at 11:08 on 23rd August 2011 Hi CathyML/Shirley. It's not the text that costs, but the hosting of the pictures. So keep the stories coming Shirley.....if only it continues to annoy James! lol We do need continually changing good text which is what you all contribute to by taking part in the forums, so don't worry about that aspect CathyML but very, very nice to know that you are thinking for POE. |
James Prescott Posts: 25952 Joined: 11th Jan 2010 Location: UK | quotePosted at 11:11 on 23rd August 2011 how are you ron ----the stories dont annoy me ron i look forward to them i am very interested in american history --keep em rolling shirley. |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | quotePosted at 11:13 on 23rd August 2011 Blamed you because I couldn't blame anybody else James.....feel honoured. LOL |