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James Prescott
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quotePosted at 11:14 on 23rd August 2011
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quote | editPosted at 23:21 on 23rd August 2011

Yeah, but I didn't want to get you all caught up in this mess on my own genealogy problems exactly. Thing of it is that here we have an DAR report on an fella that his kids can't really be substanuated as his...and maybe the one thing Rosalie did say that was true...was asfar as we know...the Larkins men had some pretty large families. 

Plus I am interested in this chart as I think it married also into my hubby's side later on...but not as Larkins...as "Lane" with an emphasis on the "E" in an style that is "French"....and one of these kids later data includes the "Robeson" family as "Robault" by name.It will make an big difference to me to determine if we are working with an "Len Lape" Delware Indian as "Lackey" for "Larkins later on also.One of Oregon's first Governors came from this Lawson/Lane marriage..after it became an state. My freind that says our families traveling together...that to look for them to be Indian Guides for the military and "Interpreters" in thier treaties. Her family has an picture of her family...in Tenneesse...for Native Americans ladies they are in full hooped satin "ball gowns" just as stylish as any Southern bell Lady of the day. Long hair up and into an nice hairstyle on top of their head also. But remeber...they were also friends and advisor/ associates of Pres. George Washington...and very well educated in "gentleman" whiteman ways. Your first "christainized" by moravorian preachers of the day. Affter they were "slaughtered" by whitemen calling them "savages"...something sadly told in the Augusta Co., Va Lewis/Peyton autobioaugraphy as she lamented herself how wrong this was....they left the "white" world and went and joined the Shawnee, if not going out west. From then on they ran to escape being "caged" on reseravations... in povery and starvation offen. Their parents were told and demanded to hand them over if they wanted strip money for goods/food...and educated in white schools to lose every ounce of their cultural upbringing. Many died. There was extreme  "child abuse" amoung the institutions they were forced to be schooled at....as they "beat" their Native ways out of their little souls. You wonder why they hate the "white guys" The British often married them...the French often married...but the Military/Govenment officals wanting to take thier lands.. used them to put to slaughter like common "insects" of the day...with no thought of remorse. Amoung themselves also...they fought for an type of survival also. I have documents in my files of our Government giving in trade blankets invested with "smallpox" to kill them, others to supply them with liquor...because it was easier and less controversal to "shoot an Indian in the back" without reprisal of the townsfolk.Indeed studying thier diet, liquor probably for th emost part did drive them "crazy" as thier diet was built on an high vitamin content of "B" and greens..and now they fight "diabetes" from this legacy. Man's cruealty toward itself has never in the least amazed me in history. From choppin goff people's heads and placing them on poles in Europe to even this and beyond at times. Here lately because they beleive that we are one with "God" they instituted the Sun Dance to try to in their own way atone for mankind's murdering ways on earth and disrespect toward God. It's an bodily painful sacrific of themselves...full of prayers to God At any rate...there are other legacies in the family and they include the "Masonic Lodge" also. The Native Americans bring up the fact that when they leave thier lands...as did Pocahontas to go to England...they died ususally.

Debra Ware was killed by an cannon ball that went through the side of her brick house in Gettysburg. One of our "Scout" families use to be the "Getty" family. Father and son came hiking into Lake Cultus for summer camp....he left.... and died of an heart attack the next day...completely surprised us all...his wife said she didn't know he had an heart problem...and didn't sound like he was having any health problems... or over stressed himself in the hiking. It just happened.

Cathy...From the book of "America's Mysterious places"...by Hans Holzer..it talks of room 32 in the Graeffenburg Inn in Fayette, not far from Gettysburg and off the highway going to Harrisburg. Strange things go on in that room...including deaths by getting smothered..combustion fires..and seeing an little old lady in an "granny gown". Singing, being awaken by someone shaking you violently...an lilac smell...getting touched by no one there...those sorts of things going on there.

Of President Abe's family...they claim that Mary Todd his wife was an touch of "looney" in her older days...but then again some people see his ghost in the White House also these days....my reserach work indicates that the family (coming from Sir John Lawson...admiral of his magesties Navy in England at one time)...is not to far different from many of the family whom are "silently" clarayvoant ...besides being of the "Planegent family" of English rulers they were supposedly also an line of Jesus himself...and if you will look "Jesus" himself has DNA supposedly in genes that make him an bit different from others. If you look you can find it on line...and perhaps this socalled "knowing" by other family members is part of this gene defect...Jesus was said by hios resurrection he was also the thirteenth "fisherking" ...and half mortal identity that sits on the thrown of "God" that help to keep the world running correctly. Some UFO-ologists claim that they are back here trying to get the "gene pool" straightened out. Since Martin's and Larkins and the Lawson's all share the same possible lineage..this abilty would be amoung them also. If you look at passenger lists you'll see where an Hugh Martin (later Larkin/s) came here with Hugh Kennedy or Fitzgerald...one of them... also.As "Hugh Larkin" he was an classmate with President Grant and went on to open the first International Correspondence School of Education here in America..his legacy is in "Who's Who". King Henry the VIII must of been an real family disappointment...he caused everyone an LOT of problems that may even rivial George Bush in this era. His wives cousins...the Boylen family became Boyd..the Davis/ Larkins married them and Catherine Howard....you'll see he was married to her just before he got "banished" and lost Boughton Hall in England. It is this John Lawson I suspect with my Larkin family here or an next generation. it is this older John Lawson in my records most likley also traveling with William Larkin..in Virgina and Maryland and Pennsyvania. It was this John Lawson that laid out an whole town for the Morvorian preachers that "christainized" the Leni Lape or Delaware Indians...and this Native American "turtle lady" I see occasionally.. I think has something to do with it all. One of their matriarcal "mother clans" is that of the turtle....and Tucumesh..Shawnee leader. mother was known as "she who lays turtle eggs". Just for your own data. Even McYoung whom also see's visions in earthboppin...the Young family...also preacher's marred into the family and friends with the Rev. William Burke...Walter Burke wasmy parents neighbor across the street and "Walt" was in our Scouts... and he lived near by us up above Oxbow Park. Now you see why I stayed up have the night reading the Rev. Jacob's Young's Journal recently...they claim his wife's family was an "John Sparh"..and my freind "Ann" her lineage was "John Spear"...anBritish "tory" whom hid himself out in West Virginia with the native Americans. Her name of Touriquet as Native Americans I found an picture of before he was killed...but my templar book has an Fouquet family in it, may also be over here "Fauquier"...Geoge Washington's first surveyin gjob was done at his estate in Virginia. Again it talks in concerning about these three brothers and painting by "Possin" called the Shepards of Arcadia...the orginal painting is part of the Rennes-le-Chateau...listen to what these three brothers did ...Abbe Louis Fouquet wrote from Rome to hsi brother Nicolas, Louis xiv's

Superintendent of Finances, in April 1656 fo an great "secret" Poussin the painter knew (probabaly that Jesus and Mary Magdalen were married and parents of an daughter and son)....and it was thier brother charles Fouquet who was bishop of Narboone...later taking sole control of Notre-Dame de Marceille for 14 years. This latter church lies north of Limoux...its claim ot fame is the mysterious St. Vincent De Paul (1150-1660) founded the order of the Lazarist Fathers there...the church has many connotations to Marseilles and the magdalena story also...the church also has connotations with an secret vault who's secret wordage in an code was broken in 1995 just before the death of it's decoder Boudet...it says the church belonged to the "Templar Knights" and the sealed doorway in it holds the head head of an "Sacred King"....one can only wonder if it's John the Baptist maybe.....At any rate no one expects to get permission to find out.....but on another side "note".... you can see and wonder if Washington's connection with the Faquier family helped his connections with the French during the Rev. War era...and how it was financed. The church in this speaking of it....was at least 100 years prior to the Rev. War..adn was Poussin and Lossin/Lawson....PierrePlantard (later he added on "de Staint Clair"....became GRand Master of the Masonic Lodge...and member of the Priory of the Sion.

One more note....remember the "buttons" I mentioned from Germany earlier...In the" Dossiers secret"s.(letters)...explains that the Scambrains Franks, the tribe from which the Merovingians descended were of the lost tribe of Benjamin, whom migrated to Geece and then on to Germany, where they became Sicambrians.

I buy this all but the Mervongians....their lineage is said to be from an "sea monster" and possible "Fisher King ..that impregnanted an   Princess on the beach shore...in thi sparticular book they are trying to link this all up to the Tribe of Benjamin and the goddes Isis...but the Tribe of Benjamin is an tribe that was looked down upon in htier history of their day for the dishonesty...the other tribes refused to let them marrying thier daughters...the resolved it by "gang raping" some of the others tribes gathering for an ceremony...the German element came from the Tribe of Daniel. In an old book I have written in the latter 1800's...it says that "Isis" is the founder of the May Pole, dance or ritual and demands an gift from the children...or like an witch....she kills them.  Isis is also in UFO-ology considered an mother figure that as stitichen says...knew how to deal with human genes. She was conisdered semi-divine by nature also. In another book...her symbol is the "Bear"...like Queen Sheba...maybe hairy legs??? Clovis's era started this  all off with two fathers...one divine and one mortal with this ledgend. It gives quite an extensive detail of Arian Christianity in Germany at this time and how it later came into it's own...but it also says that is more like in the Koran...where by Jesus wsa an mortal and not "divine" by nature. His teaching though kept alive from the Arian Chirstian movement...Holy Blood Holy GRail goes into great detail on the Tribe of Benjamin...How they were blessed by god and given teh land on which Jersulam sits upon...how they feel out of grace with their tribemen...were cursed..and an war took place...as they defended themselves for helping an man whom believed in Bal..(whom I think is merely another one of the Fisher Kings perhaps) and how thier remants went to Greece...joined the Arian movement...and evenually they work their way back through to Jewersalem...but it interesting and this word Merovingian...is used in the same contextas an "Fisher King" would be...without really stating so. This has no context with the "Princess" impregnantion of the English bloodlines that I can see....at least right now..Jesus was of the Tribe of Judah. The Tribe of Benjamin... simply owned the land of Jersusalem...but not the bloodline of Jesus. If tha tmakes any sense....and I have long known that there has always been an paraelle to the story of Isis with that of Jesus. Isis is comes from Egyptian creation stories before Jesus. Of course this is all "played up" through thier "divinemess" in general...with an healthy transfer of "spirit" in others.... as protgee types. As the bible says so adequately....Have no other Gods before thee (or me).......But enough about all this for now.

 
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quotePosted at 00:00 on 24th August 2011

From Shirley: Cathy...From the book of "America's Mysterious places"...by Hans Holzer..it talks of room 32 in the Graeffenburg Inn in Fayette, not far from Gettysburg and off the highway going to Harrisburg. Strange things go on in that room...including deaths by getting smothered..combustion fires..and seeing an little old lady in an "granny gown". Singing, being awaken by someone shaking you violently...an lilac smell...getting touched by no one there...those sorts of things going on there.

WOW Shirley, I'll make a note of that and try to visit. How exciting!! Thanks for the info. It's a shame we all d on't live close together, I can imagine long evenings around the bon fire listening to Shirley's tales!! Smile 

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quotePosted at 23:34 on 24th August 2011

"Coast to Coast" has two such story tellers as guests from England also, one an historian, and one an book author....fascinating to listen to them also and he ususally gives them the whole evening. It rather bothers me at time making such long postings...but you need the whole story to understand it..."boring" history is names and dates only....true.. they are important also...but the travels and thier lives are what counts to me. Hey, it made the movie "Titanitc" all that more interesting...and it was supposedly and true story.

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quotePosted at 18:13 on 29th August 2011

Go to the web site reddit.com and read the article(posted couple days ago) from the link at The Nation.com about what they are going to teach the kids in American History this year in Texas...no more George Washington,and Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin...it's going to be about lesser known ethinic groups/people. Nor is it going to be about our Constitution. You will have to read the article. It's not looking favorable to the teaching institution in some ways. I would guess they think the the students were exposed to our founding father's earlier maybe? Not sure if it's good or not, you can only have so much to teach on people though...that is true. In the meantime  our newspaper says this morning roughly 6,800 Oregon High School students (seniors) have as yet to pass the state reading test if they want an diploma at the end of the year. Most teachers willbe working with that aspect this year.

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