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Sk Lawson
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quotePosted at 18:23 on 16th January 2012

I have two things to gossip on....one is England's Chef..Robert Irivine in his "Resturant Impossible"series...I never ever came across an owner/operator about to fall to pieces and have an nervous breakdown as this last little gal he was helping...I mean she cried about everything. She really needed his help...because it was her livelihood now that her hubby had died. She had an lot of problems to contend with also...but he did come to her aide...and left her doubling her profit for the month. Cut her hours down, straightened up the decor, the menu...and the cook.  Maybe she can proceed from now on with more success.

Second gossip talk.....the name Susan..Sukey...Susanna.

John Lawson some where mid 1700's has mentioned "Sukey" as his wife. Now she may of been named after either the Rogers family...or the Stukley family in New England....but I found some interesting information concerning her name I thought I'd pass on. Rogers family are an female ... English line maternally...whose maiden name was Lawson over there supposedly according ot my data I picked up on them years ago.

Here's what I have...maybe our "Sue" here can give us some input on what she thinks about all this......Susan is an feminine name, deriving from middle Egypt (Ssn..with the little half cup mark above the second "s" in the word) meaning Lotus flower, first reported on an 11th Dynasty Sarcophagus dating 2,000 B. C. The Hebrew root word for the name "lily" meaning joyful, bright, or cheerful....basis for the word Sasson (Note:...could this also be the word Saxon in Britain?..skl),,,the Persian name for lily is "Souson", Susan. The name of Susa, an ancient city of Persia, (now Iran)...may be derivied from the lilies which abounded in the plain which it was situated. JetLand.com says of "Susa"...it appears in the earliest of Sumerian records...eg., in Enmerkar and the Lord of Atta. In the Hebrew bible...mainly Esther, Daniel (whose thought to be buried there) and Nehemiah(remeber my color blue and the Masonic Lodge article earlier int he year last year concerning Nehemiah..Templar Knights) lived in Susa...Esther became an Queen there saving the lives of many Jews during the Babylonian era.  Http;//www.Sevenfoldtruth.com/dalamtia/index.html...is an archeology site about the lost city of "Dalmatia"..thought to been one to the two cities also known as first and second Susa...the first one was indaunted by flood waters...and they found it by some of the information coming from the Urantia Book. the lower town was desytroyed by water some 8,000 years ago...but you'll see it in this interesting web site.  The first king of Atlantis was called Urania...and the city of Ur..was not far away from Susa. It sets just north of the Persian Gulf near the Tigris river and I find it associated also the to original "Garden of Eden" in it's day. Dalmatia...is also in records referred to as Dilmun..was thought to been later the name for the second town of Susa...which was built upon higher ground....survived the floods. The town was known for it's peculiar art crafts of it's day and they show and explain some of them also. Go to the home page of this web site for more interesting information in general about our beginnings before the bible age...and those trying to understand the history.  Could it be that the word "soused" as iin drinking to much... of come from the town being flooded in history?...we may never know...but interesting to speculate upon.  This web site shows pictures, maps and pottery and is quite interesting to read. Susan's that I have know... are anything but boring. Where's your Lotus flower Sue?

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Sk Lawson
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quotePosted at 18:30 on 16th January 2012

http.... does not start with an capital letter also...sorry on doing  that. I never know what I'm going to find when I delve into the family lines...but they are usually interesting ones.

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quotePosted at 19:53 on 20th January 2012

Back to my gossiping....we have had very lousy weather recently and it kept me from doing what I ususally do...genenlogy..which is an form of gossiping in ways...learning whom said what about whom,.

But...as to "susan"...I found another entry for the name that is connected to family lines...while looking up Rene d'Anjou..then tthe Count of Guise..later King of Naples, whose daughter Margaret married Henry VI....this says that he was confirmed his title as duke of Lorraine by his " suzaraine", Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund in Busel in 1434. Teh guise name beecame "Gist" over here in America.

One Susanna Lawson married into the Mordecia Gist family...and became the grandmother of George Gist also known as the Cherokee educator "Sequoyha"...they helped build the Fort Loundon along with the British in Tenneessee...second fort of that name. This Susan lived in Maryland and they have an "Druid HIll" Park named after their estate there.. Sequohya was born on the outskirts of Ft. Loundon whom the Cherokee burnt when they joinged forces with George Washington in Loyality during the Rev. War....probably because so did Susan Lawson and she looked to be the one to be handing out trade goods to the Indians..definately prior if not during the war. So now I know most likely why the "MCAdow"...McAdoo family is in the area by representation of Rev. Samuel McAdow....who I think should of been spelled Mc-Anjou probably....this is my mother's kin...and there's an John McAdow of Mason co., Ky that incorporates my father's side through his wife...I have his Rev. War Pension papers.

It's taking me some "time" but I'm beginning to understand whose who and why no one can find roots back to them...it's because they don't have any in Scotland past this marriage...though I see they put them into the Buchanan family over there in one case...Rene' d'Anjou was the alledged to been the ninth GRandmaster of the Priory of Scion...(Masonic Lodge)....so that's most likely why these  legagies though they don't know by whom came out of the area as Masonic Lodge members in the relatively Cherokee region for its time...and around the time fo the Rev. War....maybe when Ft. Loudon came down, they came in. Despite the problems over here of land grabbing from each other via the Native Americans...both the French miltary and the Brtiish in this gneral area n into Kentucky were constantly buying back buying back hostages and captives from the Native Americans back then....remember to the Indians they were considered slaves and bartered off for goods. Many of them were children and whole families with children as hostages...they most often killed the father and son's unless they were quite young. It depended an great deal on whom was the leader of the warriors at the time as to who survived. I kind of think it would take an affilation with the Native Americans to get into the "Gold Rush" in California also. These European lines were interested in that part. Adjou's are of French dessent...before the Rev. War...we had the French and Indian War. I also found out the the Blanche' family are part of this group of intermariage in Royal lines...and were indeed "Masonic Lodge" members and they are part of Benjamin Franklin's son-in-law's family...whom I think was financing the Rev War. Franklin's wife was an Read...my mother's side was an Reed/Read..probably connected as both had been one time "quakers". Also why Tenneessee was in it's beginnings going to be named the state of "Franklin" and Geo. Washington stopped it. There's various family members on all sidesI am connected to as much British "Tories" as well as they were American Revolutionists. As you all know...the last "rtie"of the Masonic Lodge is at Rosslyn Chapel...located in Scotland near the border. So it makes sense to me why these people would be there. To there south lived the Washington family...also called "wessington" at one time and next door lived the PLandegent-..later on called Lawson's

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quotePosted at 19:58 on 20th January 2012
Keep gossiping Shirley, lol.  Very interesting
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quote | editPosted at 04:28 on 23rd January 2012

Well, if you can manage to read it....we had an national computer protest going on over two bills in congress this last week...and all kinds of strange things been going on..Wikipedia people shut down thier site several days on their own in protest. I also lost my pretty pictures from Bing.com.  via my server. But anyway....congress re-sended on both bills...they said that these bills aimed for terrorist would shut down any site the Government might not like also...rather it had anything to do with terrorists or not....I kid you not when I say we are an nilth away from having lost our "freedoms" to an Government that's turned old time communist...amoung our elite an political factions over here. People are fighting it so far. They are making them hold up to our constitution.  They go to jail at times, but they are getting the word across.

OK..now...since your interested...or sound like you are. I have an group that I've held on to for an long time in records...it's one of the early James Town Plantations...that was massacred during the 1622  Indian up-rising. I know Sir John Lawson was in the area...and George Lawson...maybe his brother...there are several of them. My hubby is said of George Lawson's kin.  The people mentioned in this report of who was killed and missing in Jamestown... is showing up in the legacy papers of "Boughton Hall" lawson's in England also. According to an early report...some of the survivors went to the British Forts up in Massachuesetts area....and others went with Lord Delaware"s group into Maryland area...and eventually formed the colony of Delaware...and surounding areas. One of those may of been an John Larkin.

Remember the book I told you I was reading on "Women Mystics"..it has an chapter on "bengine" women...they were Royal lines, sometimes wealthy women, more importantly the widows of past Templar Knights families. one chapter concerns Margaret of Anjou......She was the wife of Henry VI..of whom shows up as the first line in the legacy papers I have of Boughton Hall...in the meantime in my women mystic's book we have an Margarete Porete...said of the Court of  Hainaut...when I looked that up she looks to been as an maiden name...Margarete Anjou..they killed her husband King Henry VI...and Edward the IV annulled her marriage...to stop any heir from claiming the crown. Margaret was ransomed by King Loius IX of France, where she dies in 1482. Her brother was an William of Co'pointers...and I know I misspelled that name...look up John Gaun tin Wikipedia...most are listed and his children's lines. Her father was Rene'Anjou...Count of Guise...as mentioned in the previous posting...and the fact that he was the 9th Grand Master of the Piory of Sion. If you look up the entry of John Gaunt and read through it you will see an "mistress" mentioned in it...of Swynforth....this is the name that also "ties" to the "Swinhow" name in both Boughton Hall and in the James Town massacre...took place in 1622. So...I've now got my records in line enough to make sense of the names in legacies tying in together. One of Rene's illigetimate daughters was Jeanne Blanche'...also an Royal lineage...they married Benjamin Franklin's daughter in America. According the Wkipedia entry...from King Edward III (Planegent)..his next generation family is in the Royal lines of every Eurpoean monarchy, including Spain and France....that existed at this time era. So there is many possibilities...but it may also be the King John...of Lackland....heirs could of been Larkin family also. I do have some descrepencies to work out though...because I was told that Endinberg Castle was the summer residency of the Planegent family....this book I have on Scotland says that it was Castle Sterling AND Endinberg Castle that was the Royal Palace of Scotland. Both the Larkin of New England and the Washington family site the Balliol family in thier early legacies from colonial days. He was at one time an Scottish King...but also I followed an early one from Maryland...who came  over from England with William the Conqueror as one of his advisors in early days..I beleive eh was probably am "Mason" also. I guess there is always an tale to tell and something to look up...so I really do hope that the freedom to information stays put in this country so I have access to it.  I am already having to cross reference several documents to see if they say the same thing about the same person...takes an long time. For people with not much money, these economic times often see's them dropping thier genealogy web sites also...which doesn't help me to much. I feel like I am getting in the ballpark now at least to writing an story of whose who these days and how they were interconnected to history. I go back to my reading now. 

Spiritually...I agree with this mystic lady called Hildegard of Bingen...she was an visionary that got all her visions written down around the 1100's...as you know since my near death expereinces I deal with them from time to time also. She said of them....as she tries to explain them to others..."The creature who sees and yet does not see: he feels terrestrial things and at the same time does not feel them. It is not he who presents the wonders of God, but he is seized by them, as a chord by an muscians's hand, to make heard a sound which does not come from him, but from the touch of another.

The touch of another... is the realm of God's coming through to the personna of the person. She later says that she does not hallucinate her visions....but rather it is she.... that penetrates the Light itself. I was talking to someone one time about my visions...and they told me about the Brotherhood of Christ Light Consiouness...it is the universal "Christ" that does the healing and benevolent deeds to help  others....though he sends for his angels and great teachers to help support and give knowledge to those that need it or want it...often through visions....sometimes through people also.  You have heard it said that "angels" are the messengers of God. I have spend many years of trying to understand the workings of the divine. Healing. Visions. Yes, whom I call "JC" was with me yesterday morning...and he is an bringer of news of change these days...and "ending" of something...and in this case it was my tooth I guess. I have to be an little smarter with him then what I am in some ways to remeber what I am expereinceing.... for the message to get through to me. I am so awed that he's there for me. A bit in an state ecasty myself. Yet he told me in my near death expereince some 40 plus years ago that when my time came..he would be wiht him or in times of need.  Though he comes at times to comfort me also. I am to at  a point in my life..... where I think only he can in ways.

2011 just left us but the thing that sticks out in my mind and always will... was watching Kate and William's wedding on TV...and as they said thier vows, I don't know what you folks saw...but I saw an shimmering cross in that whole church, not an physical one, an invisble kind of iredescent one that started out from an point of light and spread out to the entire area in the church way above them...and I truly beleive the marriage was blessed by God... and beyond mankinds abilty to put to words at the time. How wonderful. I thought this was "God" at work. I might in my old age forget what they looked like that day...what the pope wore, where Willam stood...but in my minds "eye" I will always reember this shimmering near invisible cross. Ever seen the " heat waves" on hot pavement rise up...that is what it looked like to me...only an cross spreading outward all overand becoming huge and dissapating. Maybe it was the "LOVE "  I saw that day also...if so, hope they always can keep it through the years ahead. What is God?... but pure Love.

 

 

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quotePosted at 04:31 on 23rd January 2012
Sorry...I timed out on...but tis me...the novel poster of POE...Shirley that wrote teh above article...sorry Ron.
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quote | editPosted at 22:46 on 24th January 2012

My backwards writing is bothering me again in posting I see....always an little mistake in one letter or one space "off".  I was told this was some kind of virus they use to pick up someone's dialouge and literally take the post to read it without going into the web site.

I am in the process of trying to find one Geoffery Plantard in history..he was called the "Count of Anjou" and was one of the first of the founders of the Piory of Scion...and Grandmaster.  The Catholics even then had wiped out their French holdings...but archealogy and an manuscript concerning them survived...so it's now established that they truly did exist..they were the start of the not only the Templar Knights, but also the Planegent Kings of England. The Pope literally wanted every word of this family destroyed...and did an good job of doing it...and the "truth"...his family line is from Dogbert II and the Mervoiginian lineage, one said to be an immortal line of the possible Fisher Kings...of course "New Age" movements say they were an line of UFO "reptailian" beings.  It goes back to my thinking that we are supposedly in the fourth world era of civilization...with previous era's having been destroyed also...one of them being "Atlantis". So far everything people have said about UFO contact and what they are calling the Galactic Federation sounds much like the 12 Fisher King's. We know they truly existed...there are pictures of them in the Egyptian temples/tombs. Said to been "Immortal" beings. Most the problems I have in this work is lack of written documents and/or the changing of them...from King Edward III downward in time, it's very hard to get some of the information for the destruction wrought by mankind. Article I recently read on the Planegent family says that their short span of history did more for the progress of the world then any monarch to date..in terms of human rights, diginity and general care. In 1548 accordign to the "Prieuyre' documents' state that one Jean des Plantard married Marie des Saint-Clair..of the St Clair/Gisors family. The Plnatard family was established at one Chateau Barberie, near Nevers, France. Apparently it was an CardinalMarzarin whom ordered its destruction for the lack of  backing him with the Catholic concerning the catholic faith...over that of the King.  Not only did he destroy the Chateau...but evertyhing srurrounding the area known with the Plantard name. Through archeaology digs...they were able to find the town and the Chateau ruins...and much the same thing happened to the castle called Whitshire in England during the  War of Roses also. Only ruins remain of it also. There is an hamlet in the Nevernais called Les Plantards. I donot at this time know if the "Berberie" from which the Chateau was called has anything to do with the "Berrry/Bray family name in the Lawson family in early colonial times or not.  I know it is said they came from France by thier DNA work...and from the middle eastern lineages...into Devon England area and left it for colonial america. That means they could of been one of the old priest lineages that the "Templars" guarded in thier Crusades. For some of them they are being called here in early documents as "mullato's"by the Native American's....and some of them are said by DNA to been an group called "Sheppardic Jews"...by blood testing. Rev. James Keith family daughter "Eliza" married an "Mr. Berry" and most her family was orphans from the looks of things later on...she had an daughter named Eliza Ann Berry that married an REv. Samuel Davis's oldes son named Joshua...killed in the Battle of King's Mountain...then she married James Glenn in Augusta Co., Va..and they went to North Carolina....he was an short time acting Govenor before the Rev. War broke out....then it is reported she married an James Dever=Sevier. She appears in the documents of my  mothers  Larkins family where my ancestor was an church elder and preacher apparently for an short time in Illinois before coming to Oregon in 1847.  I am now told that she is by two different people each of an different lineage she is related to them also. The Lawson-Graves family are connected to ours in this area also. These people are claiming kin to us by way of Sir John Lawson...though because they can not find the documentation for that...the Heritage Foundation of the Lawson's refuse to accept it so far and have re-opend up their lineages to re-evaluate them. The DAvis line is from what I've found to date to been that of the son of the Rev. Samuel DAvis that founded Princeton University....and later the Cumberland Presbyterian Church of Kentucky...and throughout Tennessee areas. REv. Samuel MacAdow...whom I think now is an "AnJou for McAdow...married into John Larkins line by his daughter named Sarah. Scottish lineages say that they aren't quite sure where the SCottish come in but they attribute it to the Buchanan family....this is why I mentioned Margaret Anjou's marriage above and her making her son the Earl of Buchanan..it was her father Rene" Anjou that was the 9th Pirory of Sion grandmaster...and she married Henry Vi...killed in the towerand her marriage annuled by Edward IV during the outbreak of the War of Roses...possibly at the Castle Wiltshire...when it was destroyed also. Again...wiping out the movement of the Masonic. Leaving these people to flee to other places. John of Guant and King James of Scotland had much to do with this group at this time also and King Edward the III lineages onward would never ben teh same and literally touch upon all the monarchies of it's time in Europe. This will be no small task to write it down. They wiped out my ancestors name here in Oregon also...when the Catholic church hurriedly sent "Father Blanchette" here to Christainize an Indian Chief's son..probably the one named after my fourth grandfather William E. Larkins (said to been Chief Lackey)...married Racheal Reed(Read)...the French rendering of the name of "Blanchette" would be Blanche" also. I guess you know that spiritually this leaves us all in an bind kind ofas to our progress to be "wiped out" leagacy wise. So it is no surprise I have someone around me doing just that most the time and they need stopped. It is interesting to read in the book Holy Blood, Holy Grail that the Merovingians believed in not cutting their hair. Much like the Native Americans thought also. I leave this section with the book mentioning that Dogbert's father in-law was "Bera"...and Bera's sister was married to an family named Levy. (Levi?) One Miron "le levite"was was count of Besalou of bishop of Gerona. This comes from the Merovingian royal house and those connected with it. I go for now.

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