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Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 20:19 on 12th July 2013 Unfortunately Philip, thats an analogy that allows the frenzy to continue, but I really don't feel that way about Nigel Farage, who is in fact from the Tory ranks anyhow. Would you feel better about him had he stayed with the Tory party? Lets be grateful that we are going to get a choice in the next Election, a real choice because who else wants to know about coming out of Europe, cutting immigration and so on? |
George Woodward Posts: 73 Joined: 30th Dec 2012 Location: UK | Posted at 20:26 on 12th July 2013 Well Philip, Labour are all out of ideas,the Torries are all for the rich and downtreading the poor to make em poorer still.Only because of UKIP are the Torries promising a in/out vote on immigration,and Labour don't want to give us a vote on the EU at all. UKIP have from the very start promising to come down hard on immigration and from the start give us a vote on the EU. I am willing to give 'em a go in power,the other two have had plenty of time to get things right. |
Ken Marshall Posts: 804 Joined: 20th Jun 2012 Location: Australia | Posted at 06:35 on 13th July 2013 A secret government report reveals that every Government department has been ordered to draw up multi-million-pound emergency plans after being told public services face catastrophe as a result of the hundreds of thousands of Eastern Europeans pouring into Britain. A massive rise in immigration next year could trigger a devastating crisis in Britain's schools, housing and welfare services. In stark contrast to the Government's repeated assurances that immigration is under control, it warns: • Ministers may be forced to abandon their refusal to grant council houses and welfare benefits to workshy new arrivals, creating what Ms Ryan describes as an extra 'pull factor' attracting further immigrants seeking handouts. • A new army of English language teachers is required to deal with a huge rise in the number of Eastern European children since last September. • East European immigrants living rough are becoming drunk and aggressive, and flooding homeless hostels. • The influx of cheap labour is forcing British workers to take pay cuts with 'serious implications' for social tension. • East European patients are 'blocking' hospital beds because they are ineligible for social care and benefits if they leave. • Towns and cities hit hardest by the new immigration are demanding millions of pounds of extra money to cope. "There is anecdotal evidence, particularly from Southampton, a port of entry for Eastern Europeans, that the effect of migration...has been to depress wages for low-paid workers. It was revealed that the number arriving from the EU was undercounted by the Office for National Statistics by 600,000 over a 13-year period. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-398232/Secret-report-warns-migration-meltdown-Britain.html
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Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 08:28 on 13th July 2013 Surely a recipe for Civil unrest on the Streets of Britain, such as we are seeing in Egypt? Get real Government before it's too late, in fact sadly, it may already be too late! Belfast is another good example of unrest, because people have their own opinions! Edited by: Ron Brind at:14th July 2013 08:08 |
George Woodward Posts: 73 Joined: 30th Dec 2012 Location: UK | Posted at 10:11 on 13th July 2013 It's never too late Ron,as long as we have the elite,rich in politics things will never get any better for the rest of us.We can see the disaster which is going to happen next year with Bulgarians and Romainians about to arrive here.The trouble is it is the public who have to live with it all and suffer,whilst I am a moderate and tolerant person,up to a point,I can feel myself getting angry with all this immigration. Phillip Cross mentions Nazis,well the way things are going and none of the politicians seem to take notice of Joe public,just what is Joe public supposed to do,lie there and get trampled on by hoards of uninvited people who are a threat to public services and health and housing resourses.The thing which really gripes me is the fact that I have paid a lifetime of taxes into the system,and Mohamid or Satish come lately can come here with all his family,tell a hard luck story and receive benefits I have paid for. I could take to the streets and protest,cause civil unrest,or vote for the party which is speaking my language,the thing that we British do.I know for sure if I was running an election campagn I would be spelling it out as it is,but it would not fit into the politically correct way of things, The British people are a fair minded nation,support the underdog,when ever there is a disaster some where the British people dig deep allow people who are in genuine fear of their lives to come and live here.Look where it's got us,we are the soft touch of the world,thing have definetly got to change without a doubt,no more off to foreign lands fighting wars,no more open borders,no more treating whoever comes here to free health care,we have got to look after our own people first before anyone else. |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 10:21 on 13th July 2013 Yes, totally agree with your statements there George, as are more and more of us 'tolerant' or maybe not so tolerant now Brits. And that is exactly why UKIP are going to do so well at the next Election. Cameron, Miliband and Clegg can do nothing to stop it! They should listen to what we have to say, after all it is us who pays their wages, soon to be inflated beyond anything we can expect for many years to come I suspect. Where is the fairness in that?
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Neil Rodgers Posts: 5119 Joined: 30th Jun 2013 Location: Spain | Posted at 09:18 on 14th July 2013 Hi Ron I have just read the article sheds with beds I find it incredible how this sort of thing can go on, but then again its possibly down to the cash community were no checks are made to just what is going on. UK is plagued with illegal imigrants carrying out illegal acts and the general law abiding people have to pick up the tab for the complete mess that sucsessive governments have placed the country in by governing the country in such a poor way. If its any concellation Ron many of the towns Mayors over here are in jail for taking backhanders etc, and now the governments own treasurer has been arrested on fraud charges. One of the reasons that the system is failing here is that if you want to register as self employed it costs 350 euros per month this is paid direct to the government on top of that you have to pay accountancy fees of approximatly 100 per month, liability insurance say 50 per month yes you have got it 500 per month before you earn anything, and they say Europe is great just who are they kidding. I can see the whole system coming to a grinding halt if measures are not put in place to reverse the decline in the standard of governing bodies everywhere in Europe. What bugs me Ron should I have to return to the UK I would have to wait 6 months before I could claim anything, having paid my taxes in the UK all my life and have employed an average of say 20 people on a continual basis over 45 years in the UK I think the European Union should be placed where the sun does not shine
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Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 12:08 on 16th July 2013 Neil says>>>I think the European Union should be placed where the sun does not shine Totally agree Neil and it's coming for sure. I heard on the news this morning that the Tory/Labour support in a Poll was around 36% whereas UKIP has slumped to 17%. Who provided those figures I'd like to know, probably a Tory or Labour held survey. We will find out who thinks what at the next Election, and I will bet good money right now, despite the apparent difference in Poll ratings, that UKIP will give both parties a real good kicking, so scoff away toffs. Oh and the others! |
Neil Rodgers Posts: 5119 Joined: 30th Jun 2013 Location: Spain | Posted at 12:13 on 16th July 2013 The clock is running watch out main stream parties. (tick tock) |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 12:37 on 16th July 2013 Yeah, I think they know that Neil which is why they are changing tack. So maybe tick, tock change tack lol |