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George Woodward Posts: 73 Joined: 30th Dec 2012 Location: UK | Posted at 12:18 on 16th October 2013 Hello Ron, I was thinking ,if U.K.I.P.didn't exist we would be having no debates on immigration by the main parties,no "pronises of a referendum by the main parties. I have just realised U.K.I.P. is more of a main party than the Liberals,in my mind anyhow . |
Neil Rodgers Posts: 5119 Joined: 30th Jun 2013 Location: Spain | Posted at 12:37 on 16th October 2013 I think the applecart is going to be turned over at the next election time not just spilt. Prediction Labour Party & Tory neck and neck UKIP just behind theTories with Liberal trailing in fourth place |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 19:10 on 16th October 2013 Hi George and yes I think you are spot on with your comments. UKIP have frightened the life out of them, but it needed doing and we need to make sure we keep up the momentum rather than dare to think that all 'might be well' after the fright. It won't ever be well again in my opinion with the Labour/Tory lot, and Clegg... well he doesn't matter any longer does he? Neil I reckon you too, are so right. We just need a few more to believe that Nigel Farage can do this. Both Tory/Labour will continue to huff and puff, but the public aren't stupid they know Farage is for them. |
Neil Rodgers Posts: 5119 Joined: 30th Jun 2013 Location: Spain | Posted at 23:42 on 16th October 2013 Hi Ron UKIP will certainly split the Tory vote the question is to what extent letting Labour claim the prize but as you say it just needs that steady momentum to push UKIP that bit closer. I just love it when Nigel Farage tears into those money grabbing fat cats that preside over our futures and when the accounts have not been signed off for several years how dare they preside over us and rule our lives when they are no better than a bunch of half baked delinquent monkeys. |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 08:02 on 18th October 2013 Bulgaria/Romania - approximately 600,000 more are coming to the UK in January 2014! Why should we have to put up with it, why should we have to afford their houses, cars, washing machines, phones, designer clothes, food vouchers and so on when our own are struggling? Why? Grrrrrrrrrrrgh! I say get out of Europe and get rid of the Human Rights Act. We need UKIP like never before!
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Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 08:28 on 18th October 2013 And this morning according to a news report we apparently have to ask the European Commission if we can take 5p per litre off fuel costs for remote areas of the UK! What has it got to do with Europe? Why don't they tell Brussels exactly what they can do with their permission, and then do what will inevitably help a minority in the suggested remote areas. Please, somebody tell me it's a joke, this place really has gone to the dogs! |
George Woodward Posts: 73 Joined: 30th Dec 2012 Location: UK | Posted at 16:17 on 18th October 2013 My thoughts exactly Ron.I am becoming ashamed to live in Britain,with the Government we have rewarding the obscene rich with tax cuts and coming down hard on the disabled and poorer people of this country. Food banks in what we are told the sixth richest economy in the world,and now we are hoping the Chinese will invest in power stations here,dependinhg on the French for aircraft carriers,utilities foreign owned, what the governments answer to higher fuel bills is to change providers,what use is that when they all follow suit and all put the price up. |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 17:34 on 18th October 2013 It's a total disgrace George, but they will pay for it at the next Election! |
Neil Rodgers Posts: 5119 Joined: 30th Jun 2013 Location: Spain | Posted at 18:10 on 18th October 2013 Successive Governments have sold the family silver to keep afloat instead of tackling the root problem, the list is a mile long. The trouble is they have no idea how a business operates you must sell goods at a competitive price, if not you die its as simple as that, maybe its to late now to even turn the tables. Look at Germany with its heavy industry would you never be able to contemplate Germany selling off Mercedes or any of its industrial base. The Government has relied to much on the service industry to pull it out of the cart unfortunately it has not worked. The trouble is not many want to get their hands dirty these days everyone wants a clean job, well the time of reckoning is here and I do not envy Nigel Farage one bit should he be elected. |
George Woodward Posts: 73 Joined: 30th Dec 2012 Location: UK | Posted at 19:15 on 18th October 2013
Neil,how very true about relying on service industries,if we don't make anything it's bound to suck in imports,the thing is also,the firms I have worked for have never invested in new modern machinery. One firm I worked for had machines over fifty years old,and yet another never bought anything new for the machinery.From time to time the so called experts tell us of how more productive workers in other countries are,yes they may well be because they have modern machinery.When I see young lads filling shelves,I always think they should be in apprenticeships,but as we know there are no jobs available.
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