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Edward Lever
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quotePosted at 08:05 on 30th August 2013

I see the UK Parliament has voted against the UK becoming involved in military action in Syria. See BBC Site

Here in the UK, we remember with shame being taken into the Iraq war by the lies told to us by the Blair government. This Syria war is a sad situation, and the killing of the innocents is wrong, whether it be by poison gas or by cruise missiles.

 

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Ron Brind
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quotePosted at 10:14 on 30th August 2013
Glad to see that UKIP's Nigel Farage was once again 'in touch' with the people by saying no, before the vote last night!
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Diana Sinclair
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quotePosted at 11:38 on 30th August 2013
War never solves anything but what to do instead? Should we really turn a blind eye?
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Edward Lever
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quotePosted at 11:51 on 30th August 2013
On 30th August 2013 11:38, Diana Sinclair wrote:
War never solves anything but what to do instead? Should we really turn a blind eye?


It is probable that more children were killed in Iraq by western forces than by Saddam Hussein. Cruise missiles do a good job at indiscriminate killing.

In the UK, the memories of the Iraq war, and the deceptions which the Blair government used to justify it, are fresh in many voter's minds. I am encouraged that this time, the democratic process appears to be working, for the time being at least.  America should not assume that we will automatically support their policies, in the sickening way that Blair cosied up to Bush.  

Bush Blair Endless Love (youtube)  and less amusing Iraqi Child (youtube)



Edited by: Edward Lever at:30th August 2013 13:26
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Sk Lawson
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quotePosted at 21:23 on 30th August 2013

Well. I'm reading that Canada followed suit with Britain....and maybe it's got Obama to thinking. We do need some better answers...it shouldn't be the country that pays the price, it should be the leader that permits the ordeal to occur in the first place. Other then slapping an wrist..it's not going to solve any issues now to do something.  Isay, let the leader stand before God...no one else...for judgement.

As to the chemical facilities, they say they are already cleaning them out. There won't be anything in them if they send missles to them to destroy them anyway. This is why I really hate to be involved over there because there isn't any solutions to these people that" act first and think later".... that is akin to justice of any kind. Perhaps the only answer is to pick up the pieces an move on and keep an eye for the next time... and then kick ass real good then to stop it before it happens. I have an funny feeling that God's answer would be to stand this guy up and chemical spray him....do unto others as they do unto you...as he shrivels in horrific agony..his family is dying..maybe then he'd think about what he does to others. How an hand full of people can make the world so ugly to live in is beyond me. it is cleay clear why they earn the disrespect of their own people.

No one backs an person that has killed their own people to be an leader with any great love and/or admirarion. 

I'm also getting kind of tired running to help.. when there's an wrong in the world...we pay an heavy price of not wanting to be around by other countries...looking like the bad guy for trying to help them.  As one person said...who else are involved with this leader from other countries that they can't influence him to not do such things or are they earning money from the military exploits as mercy troops also. Could they have backed such an idea..cause it's not THEIR countrymen they did such an thing to in the first place.Just as I said before...killing is getting to easy to do these days. But an life is still an life...and all life is representative of the creator.

It reminds me of something down at the local animal shelter..".We know how cute he/she was an puppy.... and how much you" loved" this little animal..but if you really loved this animal ...when it got pregnant, when it had puppies of its own...why did you bring it here to be ethuzined..Why di dyou dump it to be onit's own. Nuter your pets...don't bring something to life you can't support to begin with... and leave us with the job of destroying the animal's life.....That's not LOVE..... Face it you never really cared."

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Sk Lawson
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quotePosted at 21:27 on 30th August 2013

Well. I'm reading that Canada followed suit with Britain....and maybe it's got Obama to thinking. We do need some better answers...it shouldn't be the country that pays the price, it should be the leader that permits the ordeal to occur in the first place. Other then slapping an wrist..it's not going to solve any issues now to do something.  Isay, let the leader stand before God...no one else...for judgement.

As to the chemical facilities, they say they are already cleaning them out. There won't be anything in them if they send missles to them to destroy them anyway. This is why I really hate to be involved over there because there isn't any solutions to these people that" act first and think later".... that is akin to justice of any kind. Perhaps the only answer is to pick up the pieces an move on and keep an eye for the next time... and then kick ass real good then to stop it before it happens. I have an funny feeling that God's answer would be to stand this guy up and chemical spray him....do unto others as they do unto you...as he shrivels in horrific agony..his family is dying..maybe then he'd think about what he does to others. How an hand full of people can make the world so ugly to live in is beyond me. it is cleay clear why they earn the disrespect of their own people.

No one backs an person that has killed their own people to be an leader with any great love and/or admirarion. 

I'm also getting kind of tired running to help.. when there's an wrong in the world...we pay an heavy price of not wanting to be around by other countries...looking like the bad guy for trying to help them.  As one person said...who else are involved with this leader from other countries that they can't influence him to not do such things or are they earning money from the military exploits as mercy troops also. Could they have backed such an idea..cause it's not THEIR countrymen they did such an thing to in the first place.Just as I said before...killing is getting to easy to do these days. But an life is still an life...and all life is representative of the creator.

It reminds me of something down at the local animal shelter..".We know how cute he/she was an puppy.... and how much you" loved" this little animal..but if you really loved this animal ...when it got pregnant, when it had puppies of its own...why did you bring it here to be ethuzined..Why di dyou dump it to be onit's own. Nuter your pets...don't bring something to life you can't support to begin with... and leave us with the job of destroying the animal's life.....That's not LOVE..... Face it you never really cared."



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Sk Lawson
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quotePosted at 21:28 on 30th August 2013
I could use some of the extra post deleted Ron...so there' s only one of them.
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Sk Lawson
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quotePosted at 01:50 on 31st August 2013

Latest Poll tonight says 50 per cent for getting involved...46 per cent

against getting involved in Syria.

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Sk Lawson
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quotePosted at 02:11 on 31st August 2013

Edward, back in those early days...I was supporting the United Nations amendment for children's rights in the world...one of them would of been no child under the age of 16 without or with parental consent could join any military combat force. Nor could any leader of any country's military force it's children under the age of 16 to fight for the country they lived in or the war's cause whatever it may be.

Some of the other things....no child could be sexually or mentally exploited..children could not serve in any capacity as an slave...have the rights to education, food, shelter, water, medical services if needed Children had the right to to be paid for their work, and the abilty to speak an language for communication . No child could be physically abused. Children had access to their parents If under guardianship of others. In all there were 20 different rules for the lives of children in the world. But everyone knew rather even if the legislation passed...that it was ultimately those over the child's life as to rather they enforced the principles established.

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Sk Lawson
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quotePosted at 03:42 on 31st August 2013

.remember our Giles Rogers in history....articles I've been doing on them......

http://www.castles.ni/sy/sy.hmtl.....

go to Krak de chevaliers castle in Syria...and Templar knight affiliated one in the crusader days.

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