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Sk Lawson
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quotePosted at 03:47 on 31st August 2013

I had my post taken out the first time, so the link wouldn't go  through apparently...all kinds of misspells going also...so 'LUCIFER" ...DOESN'T WANT ME TO IMPART THIS INFORMATION apparently...but there is also an article in wikipedia on the castle also. Only the Templar knight's could of made arches like the ones seen at this medieval period castle.,,attached with the name of Giles to it.

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quotePosted at 09:49 on 31st August 2013
On 31st August 2013 01:50, sk lawson wrote:

Latest Poll tonight says 50 per cent for getting involved...46 per cent

against getting involved in Syria.


The results show that many American people are unsure about this war. Here in the UK, the opposition is stronger, because of the lies told to the people over Iraq. Never before has trust in our government and politicians in general been so low, and that downturn came about under Tony Blair.
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quotePosted at 19:06 on 31st August 2013

You're damned if you do and you're damned f you don't. 

Whatever we do, it will be wrong.  If we stay out then we are being heartless, if we go in we are trying to control the world. 

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quotePosted at 20:04 on 31st August 2013

"Coast had an political guy on last night...he says that Assad was any optomistrist...eye doctor and inherited his postion as an leader in Syria and probably is listening to everyone else  and espically his military  on running his country. Everyone knows that ANY military shoots first.... and thinks last...ususally under the name of patriotism.

How much influence the Russians have over there right now I've no idea, but the number wayone  they solve their problems is in mass graves of their people...kill them. That's why the bible suggests that "Armegeddon" will include them in that scenario involving the middle east and people have been stocking up for the "end days"  here, Some people can hardly wait for the excititment to start thinking it won't touch them if your out of the middle-east...Ha...have they got things to learn.... the world isn't that big any longer. Does it not sound rediculious that an basically "eye doctor" could create all this havoc for the world....do not all doctors think they have treh answers to saving the lives of others and many times fail at in the life and death sceanrio's?  Of course, much of that depends on how much money you got to spend also. They all naturally have good intentions...but you have to have more then that..you have to have healing from God/creator. I think  though even Obama has an background in college of political science. He is probably well aware of saying one thing.... an doing another... with politics. Do any of these countries have any agendas on where they are heading in the future or what it is they want to accomplish in life besides the same ruling families holding control over everyone in an world so greatly changed these days by computers and out sourcing media. Do any of them "build" and make things better for having done it? Or are they all waiting for the savior to come along and do it for them if needed. What is everyone producing that is "worthy" in life???

The middle-east is in turmoil because it has an history of pulling off such ordeals on each other like this using chemical war fare, It puts another one in the position of getting riled up with the injustice. So another "something".be it .country or army or people in general goes after them in retailiation. That is 2,000 plus years of history to them...still going on apparently. The leaders of those going after them have to have glorious speeches on backing those going over there..George Bush was goodat that with his "patriotism" messages..and I found it to be said that two Middle-eastern people after 9/11 were noted as saying.."now they get to see what we deal with every day"...that being how you remedy the horror of another"s thinking on your own turf. We don't want you there USA..but we came over to your country to start the ball rolling. ..Ha!  Isn't 9/11 not an whole lot simiar in using war chemicals to kiil others also..I think so..just different equiptment being used.  AS an historian I've been following them around with the Templar Knight's watching them pick on each other via the world arena for centuries. Lives are touched by their prescence with one thing...death. We have even replaces "peace on earth..good will to man" but Santa Clause at Christmas just so we can yell an war cry using the Lord's name for the justice to kill others If patriotism don't work.  I mean like people...wake up will you...and see things for what they really are.  Inadequate leadersthat threatened war, sneak around doing dirty things and costing lives like cleaver little " predators" to mankind...destroying everything in their wake, including their own people, houses and country. That's not tmy idea of real leadership. I hope that Obama can be an little smarter. For some of us..I don't play games...I use to put up with people twice..and the third...down they went. First ime I tried to find out what was the problem, the second time they pulled an cuttie offon me, I warned them "no More",,,third time they were out the door. I don' thave times to play games of stupidity. Things that arenot worthy to begin with...and if you have an valid reason and talk it over with me, I'm willing to change my stance on things. But just to create havoc in my life because you think you can do so..forget it. I go for now...see what we are "made to do" by our leaders..because of the injustice in the world. Why don't we put them all underground...so we can live peacefully above the ground?.. on second thought, they'd blow the earth to pieces fighting underground also....I go for now...and get involved in doing something around the house to improve it. ..that doesn't require someone to die..

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quotePosted at 22:06 on 31st August 2013

 I agree with you Edward people should be told the absolute truth when having to face up to situations that in the long run will affect their lives.

David Cameron is now on the receiving end of historical mistakes made by the Government, hence the politicians are being cautious this time round.

David Cameron should have waited till the UN Chemical weapons inspectors compiled their report, I believe the outcome of the vote would have been in favor of some sort of limited action.

But as Sue states you're dammed if you do and dammed if you don't  

 

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quotePosted at 00:19 on 1st September 2013
I see Obama is now placing the decision about military action in Syria to a vote in Congress. Perhaps he now realises the folly of rushing into action without firm evidence.
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quotePosted at 09:10 on 1st September 2013
Best thing he should do Edward
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quote | editPosted at 11:04 on 1st September 2013

WEll, ust recently out and 2 months old an book called "Another 19.com...for this web site...the author is Kevin R.Ryan...and if you can access "coasttocoast" with his show..it's well worth listening to.

It concerns 9/11....and he lost his job working for underwiter's Laboratory and his findings about the towers back then.....so as long as he was off work he took the time to investiagate and answer some of his own questions. He sites, Dick Chenny, Daddy Bush, Geo. W. Bush and his relative named Marvin Bush, and Donnald Rumsefell (sp?) and an host of Government officials that he sayswere really behind 9/11...as he said, two of the so called terrroists werew sharing an apartment with an fella that worked for the FBI. He said he felt the Isreali's were in on it also.Just an host of people. Most of them the American people supported at the timeas"good guys" you will quickly understand why no one trusts our Government any more ,,or when they say they are telling the truth.

Earlier people were calling in what they felt about Syria...there were none of the calls made by the average US citzen thatsaid they want to be involved with Syria...people are tired of fighting for nothing..picking up the tab for it also. They believe most foreign countries are now out to destroy us  from within if possible..but otherwise by getting us into another war of some kind...mostly aimed at killing off the average American citizen.

The man above was asked whom he thought was behind 9/11...he said he felt our Government is now controlled by an higher force then the American people....that these are people that know to be in control of the middle east is to have control of unlimited power inthe rest of the world. He di dno tcall them the "new world order" but hinted strongly at that direction. They are people so moneyed they buy people...organizations..whatever stands in their way...or they kill them..... he sited several of those people by name also. I know at the time of 9/11 Kent Steadman's web site had an lot of the "this doesn't make sense" and both his ex-wife...and him came up mysteriously dying there after also. This guy says anyone they consider telling the truth or an whistle blower type.

One of those things...was the plane that went through the Pentagon.It was said to been going through the first floor at 500 miles per hour..at about 6 feet high...but one of the guys that just walked in when it was going over, lived to tell the story without an scratch on him...yet supposedly if was maybe one foot about his head?...don't sound right taking in wha tmost people know about airplanes. Suposedly it crashed...but there was never any airplaneparts picked up an displayed from it. I can remember when Kent brought that up also. They would say that the pentagon was hit and when people wanted to see the pictures...they got several different ones. This guy thinks the damage we saw was set off by explosions and well planted ones and names whom he thinks did it  and the airplane otherwise was an holographic image maybe.He said two well known pilots..John Lear and another have said given what they know.... it would of been impossible to have flown an airplane with the story they gave on the incident. So take this into consideration...why people don't want to buy into jumping into another war so readily..if at all until all the information comes in and gets checked out as to rather it's true or not. What our congress does, or what our President wants to do..may not be what the people want to do..and it will be very interesting as to rather they listen to us or treat us like we don't exist. In short...9/11 was an hoax perpetuated to get our people into war, so they had an reason to take out Suddam...and of course Ben Laden. Supposedly...he worked with them right up to the end. If indeed there was an trueend in reguards to his life. You can read about tonight's show by going to coasttocoastam. com...their home page and their past shows for August 31st...John Wells was the host of tonight's show.  

I can remember one night we were watching on Kent's web site what was several missles set out off the coast from Vanderburg air  force base in California and it hit an commercial jet..later on the airplane was said to of had engine trouble and went down in the water...and when someone inquired about the missles, they said it was restrictedinformation, but the area often has manuvers and military drills.One of the guys got ahold of the passenger list on the airplane. Besides one politician...there was an man an his wife on that plane that was headed back to Alaska from an meeting where by our Government was trying to buy their tribal land for the HARRP system and he apparently refused them..they owned an huge huge chunk of Alaska...and for some time we had the Native Americans telling us that they were using "Lasers" to kill their people and fried alive them before their eyes, returning from an hunting party and  they had no way to dispute it because the Government still controls the Indian reservation primarily...who di dthey have to protect them in justice?..the very Government killing them...no, they were alone on this abuse.  Now we know people like to make up fantasic sounding stories...but I don' t think this was one of them...cause I read about this airplane going down in the newspaper myself the next day after it happened.

Just as this guy said tonight...of all the places of restricted air space, the Pentagon is one of the highest priorites in the nation...and an terrorist plane gets easily flown into the building?  It might be worth it to read this book and consider what's told...and John Wells said he would be checking in from time to time to make sure he was still alive. Before they leftt they said that "coast" had crashed this guy's web site also...people tryng to get to the book to buy it. He said it was available on Amazon also. It's time people started cleaning up the little dirty dealings in life on their own..and do it. Good night, it is now after 3 am here at my house.

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quotePosted at 17:53 on 1st September 2013

Good morning...BTW..Kent Steadman was an ex-college professor, he had amazing contacts, kind of in his website what Art Bell was on the radio back then...he was disabled and made to give up his job and turned to the internet for informing us of what is going on in past and present history and news......in part to support himself. .He knew our Government was watching him...use to post them all daily as they checked him out...giving us their Isp call numbers. Another one of those that suddenly died of an heart attack, just after his ex wife Mary died also.

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