Missouri - Race relations is not being done any favours here!

What is the matter with the Police in Missouri, don't they want to try to resolve the issues over there?

Maybe I'm not the right person to speak out, because I am not sure of what's actually happening over there, but it does rather seem that they are being heavy handed, what say you members?

We have lots of American members so how do you feel about what's happening in Missouri?

They are working on it...race discrimination is hard to die back in the east, the further south you go....it's more then just an issue about that also..it's about police brutailty issues also...and rather or not they  realize they serve the public over the military...spounting the name of justice. The college kids have not forgotten the "Pepper Spray" they got for  the sit downs they did an year or so ago protesting. It's true..they were violating citzens rights walking up to them for nothing and spraying it in their faces. One guy here showed an girl off the sidewalk, and they worked her over...people were simply "furious"...from what I understand...this kid had his hands in the air when the cop pumped 8 rounds into his chest and killed him...in front of everyone. That's murder...he was un-armed. It sounds like an stupid move George Bush would do...take revenge without thinking. The Ferguson's cops are out of it, the Govenor is using state police...he walked in protest with the town recently. They are simply saying...if anything "goes"...then that's the way we will go also. I saw an picture of one of our soldiers un uniform holding up an sign when this all started..it read...Get the miliatry tanks off the streets of "America". He said that because we have all been seeing pictures of miltary tanks down in Mexico ready to invade us if they don't get their way with illegal immigrants crossing our borders. They too have been murdering, killing off livestock, and plundering the area this side of the border. At one time Mexican border copsopen up on our border guards for no reason. Many time the drugcartel is in on the issue also with illegal drug trade as well. Everyone is watching and taking sides with the issues at hand best they can...and trying to resolve the problems. Bound to be problems when the city is 70 per cent black and the police force 90 per cent white.

What was it George Bush use to call his friend "Kenny Lay"......"Boy"..that was an racial slur to some people ..meaning his servant. People are touchy these days.

Sounds like a tough life Shirley; but there can be no excuse for the sort of response dished out by police in the States.

We are now hearing that a second black teenager has been shot dead. Question is, how would you feel if it were your son?

It has to stop, because there is too much trouble in the world. We are tearing each other apart in the name of colour and religion.

Are you angry about whats going on in the world?

England forum I know, but as I said yesterday POE has lots of American members and is becoming a voice of the public.

In the UK if you are a Police Officer and you wish to carry a firearm you have to make an application to the relevant department within your force area to be considered.

The individual officer be he male or female then undergoes quite a thorough selection procedure, this involves not only intensive training in the use of a firearm, but also in depth personality and mental attitude tests. Followed by interviews to deem whether the officer has the right qualities to be accepted as a firearms officer or not. Several do not pass these tests, you may be an excellent shot, but lack the correct mental attributes. Once turned down you need not re apply.

In a country where all the police are armed I often wonder how many indivuals there are out there who may be excellent at their job, but you wouldn't want them within a mile of a firearm.

Most police officers I know, both present and retired have never had any desire to carry a firearm, and wouldn't have joined if they had to be armed all the time.

 This is an interesting read, it's a couple of years out of date, but still worth a look.

 http://www.theweek.co.uk/crime/46907/us-police-fire-more-bullets-month-germans-use-year

The problem is the constitutional right to bear arms isn't a right just given to level headed stable people, it's a right given to those you wouldn't want to trust with a plastic fork.

When all those American Jihadists come out into the open from the training camps in the States with legal possession of firearms and  the call goes out kill Americans the events in Ferguson will be like a Vicars tea party.

I am sorry the teenager was killed but he had just knocked seven bells out of the Police Officer and was about to do exactly the same when challenged, if we are to have a civilized society then the law must be upheld.