Missouri - Race relations is not being done any favours here!

I agree with Diana..he was doing something wrong...but he had his arms up in the air and was unarmed when they shot him through the chest...that is not due process of the law Nor is it justice even if you have an issue with the situation going on. I thought that also, what happened to shooting their foot to stop them...but he wasn't trying to get away from them. 

It is claimed that there are more people with guns.. that stop crimes of others then there are with no guns. Not only the muslims..but the drug cartel, the mexicans...the south americans...the russians...we are an open country in ways. The legal ones you seldom have an problem with..it is the "cornered" victim that does rash things.

In court mind you...we had an case...where by the boss got in an fight with his "ex" employee. The boss and him went into an fist fight over him being on the premises...trying to up pick he's sales accounts and past customers.They proved to us, that this bad boss was being "set up" and the other needed this police court case and his winning it....... to win in an larger court case against the boss that he had ready to file if  the police inicident went n his favor.  Apparently he had found out the boss had an reputation for being to agressive to other emplyees when he was angry...so he thought he'd use it. Tip off...by all rights the boss should of called the "cops" not the other guy...but this saleman called the cops on his own, to stir up an fight and prove his point about the agressive boss, when the police arrived. It was also pointed out that his lawyer had all women appointed to the trial knowing that most women will back down on an agressive men...in this case, he was hoping the women would vote for his innocence out of sympathy to him. Things are not at times all what they seem to be. 

Yes, our right to bear arms is just about out the door if this event goes un-checked by authorities...it will mean any cop can kill anyone they please. Not to mention the need for guns out in the forrest...if you will go to "coasttocoast.am" and listen to the missing people shows...there's something "stalking us" these days. They think "bigfoot" from the sounds of some of them they find..as children.. Not to mention cougars here lately.

Diana...on your Boston Marathon killing...the dead shooters wife said, everything was Ok until Mesha came along....and I was wondering who the heck is "mesha"...we have an financial group in this country that deals with retail leasing of  corporate buildings...named Mesha. The wife didn't say necessarily that Mesha was an woman...or an person. You can find them on the net.

John, my college professor told us in supervisory class to never... assume something...because it makes an "ass" out of "u'..and "me". We all laughed naturally..but he is correct you know. Yes, women are all the time going more toward having an small gun for protection if they are in the corporate world...or by themselves working in the city. Competition is that bad these days. Many things are that bad these days.

My dad took his education after WWII on the G. I. bill of rights and went to engineering school in St. Louis...mom told us one time that she felt sorry for the colored folk there...they were "expected' to walk off the sidewalk and into the street if an white person came down the sidewalk. She felt it was slighting another human person...but as she said, you do what's expected of you...esp in those days. So I  can imagine that their living conditions are not the "freedom" of many black colored people across the land. When the city is 70 per cent black and the cops 90 per cent white...it doesn't make an good mix.

We had white grandparents up the street from us one time whose grandchild was black..they raised him because his parents were professionasl in the world. They loved that kid just as much as any kid is loved by an grand-parent. You can bet his parents saw to it that he had an excellant education also. I can remeber walking past their house and hearing him laughing...all of them laughing an playing together and having an good time. They moved as he grew up, most likely to an retirement center. They were an heck of an lot better neighbors then some of the others have been. The race issue is an thing of how others treat it. Same goes for all other cultures also..and religions.

If you hit the refresh tab Shirley it will always duplicate the post, so use the - Latest Forum Posts top left to solve the problem. Anyway, posts deleted as requested.

And hey, be careful not to lose too much weight on that diet, we won't recognize you!! lol

Shirley's post is so full of wisdom. There has been a lot of progress in race relations, but there is much more to be achieved. All the protest songs I heard years ago...Bobbie Dylan, The Staple Singers, and all the others,  moved me to tears, all had great hopes, but so much more to be done.

Songs that stick in my mind on this theme are Why am I treated so Bad (Staples) and Long Walk to D.C. (Staples) and  The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll (Dylan). We do not have the same slave legacy as in the States, but there is the legacy of colonialism here.

Why am I treated so Bad (youtube) 

Long Walk to D.C. (youtube) 

Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll (youtube) 

Yes Edward, Shirley does post some interesting and lengthy opinions about most subjects and many times I have had to go back to read it a second time, such is the complexity sometimes.

A very talented lady.

It is good to get the American viewpoint fresh from real people such as Shirley (if you are reading this, Shirley, thanks for your interesting posts). The stories of racial injustice were rife in the 60's, some of the stories truly horrific as immortalised in Dylan's factual song about Hattie Carroll, a black maid in a Baltimore hotel, murdered by a rich white tobacco farmer. His sentence was a fine of $500 and 6 months in jail, with the imprisonment delayed so he could harvest his tobacco crop. Hence the punch line in the Dylan song, 'for now's the time for your tears'.

The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll (Wikipedia)