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Peter Evans
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quotePosted at 23:52 on 3rd July 2008
Well Mick, the original question, "why a sunset"? Because we dont see the sun so often, usualy raining, its nice to see it even if it is going down.
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Ruth Gregory
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quotePosted at 04:34 on 4th July 2008
On 3rd July 2008 21:51, Andy Edwards wrote:
Welcome Mick! This is very interesting. From skies to celebrities in one foul swoop. I once sat next to Patrick Moore on the Portsmouth to Selsey train. That man can talk!!!!!

Didn't Patrick Moore work with Brian May on some kind of project recently?
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quotePosted at 06:35 on 4th July 2008
On 3rd July 2008 23:52, Peter Evans wrote:
Well Mick, the original question, "why a sunset"? Because we dont see the sun so often, usualy raining, its nice to see it even if it is going down.

This is SO true Peter!!
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Mick Bean
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quotePosted at 06:51 on 4th July 2008


Didn't Patrick Moore work with Brian May on some kind of project recently Ruth asked (no relation)

Brian May is well into looking up at the sky, he recently received a bit of paper allowing him to be an expert in the field of astrology. If you look close you can see the creek in Brian May and Patrick Moore back where they’ve been leaning backwards during the night looking in an upward direction. They would both agree that a sky is necessary and would therefore condemn my remarks “Why a sky” and I’m slightly disappointed that Brian and Patrick have remained silent on the matter.
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Mick Bean
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quotePosted at 07:07 on 4th July 2008

 

Before this gets COMPLETELY out of hand, please note my original question was “Why a sky” not the lies, tittle-tattle and gossip “why a sunset” which some are trying to band about.  The misery and distress this has caused has put me right off my cornflakes and I will almost certainly slam the door and swear at the cat when I go out later today. This will be water off a ducks back for you uncaring lot. Have a nice day
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Paul Hilton
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quotePosted at 08:15 on 4th July 2008

You asked two questions, Mick to start off with.  Why A Sky?  and posted Why do people take pictures of sunsets?

I would hazard because the sky is part of a landscape, and as the sky alters, so does our perceptions of the landscape alter with it. Your "Bleak Rye Harbour" might be a case in point. with a bleak winter's sky it does look bleak indeed, as the sky has helped us understand that, but if it were a nice sunset with it, our perception of how it now looks would alter too. If the sky were then left out of either, our feelings of how a scene looks would alter as well, as the sky, and what it is doing, is adding emotion to a scene.

Thus why do people take pictures of sunsets? The emotion it creates within them they want to record and enjoy again, at their leisure and share that emotion with others too.

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Ray Stear
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quotePosted at 08:31 on 4th July 2008
On 4th July 2008 08:15, Paul Hilton wrote:

You asked two questions, Mick to start off with. Why A Sky? and posted Why do people take pictures of sunsets?

I would hazard because the sky is part of a landscape, and as the sky alters, so does our perceptions of the landscape alter with it. Your "Bleak Rye Harbour" might be a case in point. with a bleak winter's sky it does look bleak indeed, as the sky has helped us understand that, but if it were a nice sunset with it, our perception of how it now looks would alter too. If the sky were then left out of either, our feelings of how a scene looks would alter as well, as the sky, and what it is doing, is adding emotion to a scene.

Thus why do people take pictures of sunsets? The emotion it creates within them they want to record and enjoy again, at their leisure and share that emotion with others too.

Hi Paul,

You have expressed that thought so well, and yes, I agree with you entirely. Sunsets and sunrises have always created emotions that reach deep into the human psyche. The start and the end; the birth death and rebirth; the life cycle. Every culture on earth is governed by these rythms. Why shouldn't we gaze in awe at these spectacles, and enjoy the stirring of primitive emotions that they generate?  

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Paul Hilton
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quotePosted at 09:27 on 4th July 2008

Hi Ray--your thoughts made me think of Stonehenge as a type of example-ish.

John Constable painted 2 versions of " Salisbury Cathedral From The Bishop's Grounds"; the first being rejected by the Bishop as he didn't like the sky. The revised one is the more familiar one we see---with the more pleasing sky.

I have two near identical paintings of Willy Lott's Cottage at Flatford Mill by a former Rye artist. Essentially, the skies differ, and people's reactions to both paintings seem to differ because of the sky differences, and how the two paintings make them feel because of it.

A seemingly simple question that isn't quite as simple as it sounds, on various levels to do with people, English, or globally.

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Paul Hilton
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quotePosted at 10:19 on 4th July 2008

Mick--your " Bleak Rye Harbour" photo--yes, one could demonstrate it looks bleak if one chose to do so, and put that point of view across in a picture, using the sky to assist.

But, to others , Rye Harbour isn't bleak at all and provided my Mum with many happy years down there on her boat; going fishing, seeing friend's etc. In fact, it meant so much to her being down there, in 2004 I spread her ashes in the out-going tide way out where you said it was bleak, so she could be somewhere she loved a great deal. Depends on your perspective, doesn't it?

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Mick Bean
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quotePosted at 12:00 on 4th July 2008
I give up, bye bye
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