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Trevor Sims Posts: 7 Joined: 2nd Jan 2009 Location: UK | quotePosted at 14:47 on 4th January 2009 Any thoughts on why the Canon 1000D is much cheaper than the 450D but doesn't have than many less features? Is it something to do with the kit lens and if so, does anyone know if the 450D kit lens is that much better. www.jessops.com 450D = £450; 1000D = £322 |
Paul Hilton Posts: 2605 Joined: 21st Nov 2004 Location: UK | quotePosted at 16:21 on 4th January 2009 Well Trevor, the kit lens offered on both is generally the 18-55mm IS lens as you will have seen at Jessops for example. The 1000D is a sort-of detuned 450D and priced to be competitive with Nikon's offering of a 10 meg camera, their D60. So, there's your first difference; it's 10 megs instead of 12; the metering systems are different; the rear screen is smaller, the continuous shooting speed is different. So, lowering the specs here and there of the 450D keeps Canon in the game in the entry level camera sector, notably against Nikon's offerings. |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | quotePosted at 18:32 on 4th January 2009 Phew! Good job we have people who know what their talking about! Well done, to both Trevor and Paul for highlighting the matter!! |
Trevor Sims Posts: 7 Joined: 2nd Jan 2009 Location: UK | quotePosted at 13:04 on 5th February 2009 I ended up buying the 1000D; what a superb bit of kit. I think that the main feature I miss from the 1000D (detuned 450D) is the lack of spot metering. I also understand that the 450D has greater bit depth to it's RAW files, but I am not convinced that it would have made much difference to me. The extra megapixels don't really affect me nor does the smaller rear screen. So all in all from my perspective Canon have detuned the areas that make this a very attractive camera, especially when you consider the price difference. In terms of price deals, I managed to get Jessops to sell me the 1000D complete with lens kit, plus a 8GB Sandisk Extreme III (they had no Extreme II's in stock), plus the Tamron 70-300 and UV filters for both lenses all for £450. I should be receiving my cashback of £30 from Canon soon so that means I have got it all for £420. You can't even get the 450D body for that price!!! |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | quotePosted at 13:09 on 5th February 2009 Seems to me you have a great deal there Trevor. Hopefully that will mean loads more pictures from you for POE? I would also like to thank Paul for his input above. Did you find Paul's comments useful when negotiating Trevor? Hopefully you did and so now I want say.....that's the power of POE! |
Trevor Sims Posts: 7 Joined: 2nd Jan 2009 Location: UK | quotePosted at 13:21 on 5th February 2009 Hi Ron - Yes Paul's comments were useful so thanks to him. It's good to have an independent view rather than relying on sales blurb and professional reviews. |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | quotePosted at 13:46 on 5th February 2009 Excellent Trevor, thanks for letting us know. Well done Paul Hilton! |
Paul Hilton Posts: 2605 Joined: 21st Nov 2004 Location: UK | quotePosted at 19:42 on 5th February 2009 Glad I could help in whatever way Trevor and looks like you got a pretty good deal there too into the bargain with a noticable savings; probably even more so as Nikon had a significant price increase in mid-January, and Canon from the 1st Feb due to the Yen/ GBP situation, so not delatying too long may well have saved yourslf a bit more too. A handy site for quick price comparisons you'll find here and gives you a good idea of what the prices are in the marketplace fairly quickly. http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/ |
Noddy Posts: 13 Joined: 25th Jan 2010 Location: UK | quotePosted at 21:05 on 26th January 2010 Hi I know I'm not in very good books so I won't try to be clever but the easy answer is When Canon launched the EOS 300D back in 2003 it was widely regarded as the first affordable digital SLR and secured Canon a seemingly indomitable number-one spot in the market. Since then the 'small' Canon has gone through three further iterations and the current model - the EOS 450D - offers a feature set and image quality that could only have been dreamed about five years ago (and at a price point well below the 300D's). However, the competition haven't been idle spectators and have recently launched a number of de-spec'ed cameras that have redefined the entry level segment and undercut the EOS 450D in the DSLR hierarchy. Canon has now responded to this mounting pressure by launching a new model one tier below the 450D in its current lineup - the EOS 1000D. It shares bits and pieces with Rebels gone by and, depending from which angle you look at it, the new model is either a stripped down 450D or a 'reheated' 400D. It's a lower specification camera than the 450D, by every measure you might see listed on the shop shelf, but is not the huge step down that its market positioning might lead you to expect. On the next page of this review you'll find a detailed comparison between the 1000D, 450D and 400D but the headlines are; a 10MP sensor, 2.5 in LCD monitor, 7-point AF system and no spot-metering (like the 400D) but gaining Live View with both phase- and contrast-detect AF, SD/SDHC for storage and a control and menu layout that is pretty much identical to the EOS 450D's. In fact, because it's based around the same Digic III processor, it shares an interface with almost every current Canon DSLR all the way up to the 1DsMkIII. Note that throughout this preview we will refer to the EOS 1000D by its European name; if you live in other parts of the world you'll know the camera by Rebel XS or Kiss F Digital, but they're all essentially the same camera. |
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