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Joanna Weaver
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quotePosted at 08:20 on 16th February 2011

 

Well done Cathyml for finding Robert North de Beauvais living at Edgecumbe House in Milton Abbott in 1902. My goodness yes the property is very similar isn’t it? yes both a Tudor House . I wonder if  Cotehele  could be part of the House that I would like to identify (but as you say I think they would have built arched windows throughout). re: window Tax. I do not think the de Beauvais had any financial problems during these times of the past they were wealthy. I also believe the de Beauvais were big in the Church; the Church with its Bishops were in days gone by wealthy. I wonder if there are church records that would say where the Rectory would have been in Milton Abbot that could have been a the Tudor House we are looking for.( I can’t be for sure Robert North de Beauvais was in the church but certainly I know the name I even had a oil painting of him but no more he was in a collar and tie i.e. not a dog collar, as didn’t like the image. But I would recognize him again. I was not so interested in this side of the family as it was my grandmothers sister husbands family.

Re post 14. where you say  ''I assume you already had all that information'' I have snippets.  (I just copied your post to say I know you are correct I have some information) I do not to the extent you have kindly found out on Henry Wheeler so far. All very interesting. How do I attach another photograph for you to see which could be related to this property it is only relations sitting on the wall by a massive house? Thank you for your ongoing interest.

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cathyml
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quotePosted at 08:35 on 16th February 2011

Hi Joanna.  Robert North de Beauvais was a Doctor born 1870 Bridlington, married Mary (I think this is Marguerite Marie/a Wynyard) in 1896 in Paddington (she had her own private means).  They do not appear to have had children. In 1911 they are staying at Ash Villa, Budleigh Salterton and indicated this was not their permanent address.

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Joanna Weaver
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quotePosted at 10:23 on 16th February 2011

Thanks Cathyml I have decided the photograph will not help us much so am not posting it, it does not enough detail. It would be so wonderful if anyone does identify the photograph. I have some guests staying with us here who know Cotehele well they thought to start with the photograph we have is Cotehele; but then said no it is not but very similar and same period.

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cathyml
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quotePosted at 13:07 on 16th February 2011

Hi Joanna.  Do you have information or thoughts on who the person in the picture might be?

Here are another two pics also depicting a similar style of building and both Tudor buildings.  The first is Littlecote House, Wiltshire and the second is Sydenham House, Marystow, Devon.

I also had a photograph the members were not able to identify and I sent it via email to "English Heritage" and the "National Trust" (both are online with websites).  I got an answer and a positive ID and my photo only showed the corner turret of an external wall! So that could well be the best way to get your photo identified.

1st photo Littlecote House (Grade1 listed building)

Littlecote House Hotel - A Grade 1 listed Tudor Mansion
Picture by Pat Trout


Sydenham House
Sorry the link seems to be disconnected to that photo - so if you go to the bottom of this page and put Sydenham House in the green "google search" box, you will be able to see them.

 

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Joanna Weaver
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quotePosted at 14:51 on 16th February 2011

Wow lovely House's. I will do as you suggest Cathyml my guest also suggest the same good idea  will let you know if they can help.

No do not know who the man is in my picture but he seems to look like a de Beauvais he has that look and stance.

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lancashirelove
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quotePosted at 20:00 on 16th February 2011

It has nothing to do with identity, but having looked at the first image again, I note that there appears to be 'standing water' between the lawn and the part of the building on the left, you can see this if you enlarge it. Also as someone pointed out all the opening windows are open. Perhaps the building has just suffered water damage by flooding, heavy rains or even as a result of a possible fire in some part of the building and it is in the process of being 'dried out'?

have you read the link below?

http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-35399.html 

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quotePosted at 21:21 on 16th February 2011
I think Joanna has read the link/site above. It's her posting on it isn't it with many many more posts there as well?
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quote | editPosted at 14:57 on 17th February 2011
 

Yes Paul that is correct. Genealogy has been very helpful tracing my family. You will see many of my posts there. They have traced most of my ancestors. The most incredible amount of information which has lead me to direct contacts one is a cousins who holds the Baronetcy Sir Nicholas Mander we share a gt gt gt gt Grandfather. See the family tree and connections and information on this site:  www.owlpen.com  also another branch of my family through Genealogy I have met another cousin who we share the same gt gt gt gt Grandfather William Sparrow, the Weaver family are also from Wolverhampton. The Mander family go way back to 1200 the family's all seemed all knitted together keeping the wealth in the family. Owning most the Land in Wolverhampton. The shopping Centre is named after the Mander family in Wolverhampton. However with this particular photograph on this site POE I posted is not posted on British Genealogy. It is only now I wonder maybe the photograph is connected to one of the families from Woverhapton and maybe not the de Beauvais family side at all. It has been wonderful receiving your information also and one day will put it on the Ancestry Tree site.  Very interesting too what lancashirelove has observed from the photograph, I have also observed that the roses are out in the garden meaning ira summer so possibly a hot day the reason the windows are open, but yes, there could have been lots of rain during the summer and even floods. My apologies’ for not bring to your attention earlier that British Genealogy has helped with a lot of information so am very pleased now you found this lancashirelove. Thank you all for all the interest and please keep do inform to anything intriguing anyone may find. I could never do this without you clever ones!!!!

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Ron Brind
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quotePosted at 15:34 on 17th February 2011

Joanna you will note that your avatar is missing from this post. It's because it took you longer than an hour to type it, and it timed out.

If you can keep an eye on the clock in future and post before the hour expires, it will always show your avatar.

Chris and/or Sarah will no doubt fix it for you in due course.

Incidentally, its been a very interesting thread to follow. 

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cathyml
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quotePosted at 16:00 on 17th February 2011
With thanks to Paul for helping me with information (he is amazing!).  Here are probably the last titbits, for now anyway, on Francis Caeser Beauvais (the one born 1874).  From about 1934 - 1953 he was living at 4 Springdale Road (I think Poole, Dorset) and from 1954 -1961 at 8 Springdale Road.  He died Sep quarter 1961 registered at Poole, Dorset.
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