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Hi From Washington State USA Looking for Normans of St Tudy, Bodmin, Devon, Cornwall

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quotePosted at 00:32 on 10th June 2010

Just call me a history buff, amatuer photographer, Interior Designer by trade!  I think I found this site searching for Bodmin Road.  Started rooting in the early 70's.  Appletons, Strongs, Warrens, currently searching for a family from the early 1800's Francis George Norman I b abt 1828 who married Ann Jinks/Jenks b abt 1830 they lived in St Tudy Parish in 1846.  Francis Sr was a ag lab collecting guano and Ann was a school mistress at the St Tudy School, Church etc, about 1865. Mention of an Aunt Ann Smith and a Florence, Uncle Henry Jinks/Jenks an author and a Uncle Thomas Jinks/Jenks.   A son Francis George Norman II was born 1846 Jan 8 who became a RN Marine, Supernumerary, Able Seaman, 1865 on the HM Hector, Sept 1865 onto HMS Duke of Wellington to the China Station; Feb 1866 to May 1867 HM Troopship Adventure to China and Hong Kong. Off to the Island of Laberan, with the Bouncer, April of 1868 he was on the British gun vessel Levan as a Seaman in Borneo the Kahajan Islands.  On return from one of his trips he spoke of Portsmouth England catching a train to Bodmin Road, the closest stop to the place he resided and grew up.  Returning from the service of 12 years he found his parents had died and emigrated to the USA resided in Pennsylvania.  An earlly death brought his family out to Washington as homesteaders in the early 1900's.  I have been through numerous census reports, ship naval records and find only a few with the Surname Norman....stumped to say the least. 

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Thanks    Judi

Wow Thank You for the Info and Welcome! Not sure how to respond or Post... Paul this is definately my FG Norman with Jane Anne however her family came in 1851 from England? Correct father William and they Naturalized 1854 in Maryland.  Where did you find this information on the ship I wonder if the year could be a misprint? 

Thank You So Much 

 



Edited by: panachemelange at:11th June 2010 01:48
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quotePosted at 02:25 on 10th June 2010

The National Archives is where F G Norman's naval records would be held but I've tried searching for him without much luck at the moment. All his ship's records i.e. ship logs, are there too.

 http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/

Bodmin Road station is now called Bodmin Parkway. 



Edited by: Paul Hilton at:10th June 2010 02:27
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quotePosted at 11:53 on 10th June 2010
Hi Judi, a very warm welcome to the POE family and good luck with your family history search
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quotePosted at 16:10 on 10th June 2010

The Norman family name seems pretty rare in Cornwall but quite common in Devon and the only Francis George Norman I have found was born 1851 in Tiverton, Devon; probably the wrong one?

But the Norman name does come up in Bodmin where, on 30 June 1857, Robert Norman was sentenced to 4 months imprisonment for larceny at the court in Bodmin. 

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quotePosted at 16:46 on 10th June 2010

I also only found the Francis George Norman birth registered Mar 1851 Tiverton.

1851 in Ilfracombe :

Francis Norman 40 born 1811 Berrynabor Devon, agricultural labourer; Ann 30 born 1821 Morthal, Ann 8, Mary 7, George 4 & Francis 1, children all born Ilfracombe.

1861 at Kentis Moor Kentisbeare Tiverton

John Norman 53 born 1808, ropemaker, Eliza 45 b 1816, John 14, William 12, Francis G 10, Richard J 4, Albert E 2

1871 in Village of Heal, Ilfracombe, Barnstaple

Francis Norman 60 b 1811, Ann 52 b 1819, Francis 19 b 1852, Ellen 15 b 1856, Jane 11 b 1860.

Will try to do a little more digging!

 

 

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quotePosted at 17:42 on 10th June 2010

Finally found F G Norman as being born 8 Jan 1846 at Bodman (sic).

Married Jane Anne Avery 5 May, 1873 in Pittsburgh. Died 25 Oct. 1891. 

She was born 10 July 1850 at Long Burton, Northumberland, and died 1933. She was the daughter of William and Margaret Avery from a coal mining family.

There is also a William Norman born in Bodmin 1849, and by 1871, he was living in Hillingdon, West London. 



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quotePosted at 03:19 on 11th June 2010

Judi--to post, after you log on, scroll to the end of the thread where there's a box to add your post, then click Post under the box.

Looks like then, there were 2 Jane Avery's born 1850 in England that arrived in the US, and I found the other one. They were still in England 31 March 1851 when the census was taken, so presumably departed some time in '51 after that.

Ellis Island records aren't showing the family arriving and with your Maryland connection, perhaps Baltimore was their oiginal destination?

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quotePosted at 03:42 on 11th June 2010

Judi---to cover the Avery's-----

William Avery married Elizabeth McMellon; had son William (1826-1886) who married Margaret Dawson (1829-1908) Her parents were Nicholas Dawson and Jane Richardson.  Then daughter Jane Ann of 1850 and moving the the US, had son James Henry Avery in Pennsylvania.

James married Armenia Susan Hutton (1864-1948) and their son was Lawrence Nicholas Avery ( 1908-1984). 

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quotePosted at 12:56 on 11th June 2010
Hi Judi!! Welcome to our POE family! I know if anybody can solve a mystery it's Paul. He is our resident historian and source of knowledge!! Good luck with your search! Smile
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quotePosted at 18:22 on 11th June 2010
Judi, I love your avatar
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