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Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 20:49 on 5th July 2014 Yeah, but think of the added benefits. No more government handouts to pay, everybody could afford a house, and a new car creating a massive boost for business. We would all be able to sustain a decent standard of living, but of course there would need to be rules ie no sending money out of the country for starters! C'mon UKIP get us out of Europe! |
| Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 08:06 on 8th July 2014 I think the word we are looking for here John is 'turncoat' but hey, we are all entitled to our opinion. I hope he loses big time if he does stand for the Tory party. |
Neil Rodgers Posts: 5119 Joined: 30th Jun 2013 Location: Spain | Posted at 02:12 on 10th July 2014 Dates back to 1199/1266 when 2 Barons changed sides from the Earl of Pembrokeshire to King John by turning coats (of arms) thus Turncoat
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George Woodward Posts: 73 Joined: 30th Dec 2012 Location: UK | Posted at 19:00 on 10th July 2014 Thanks for that Neil. |
Vince Hawthorn Posts: 12758 Joined: 19th Apr 2010 Location: UK | Posted at 22:29 on 10th July 2014 On 10th July 2014 02:12, Neil Rodgers wrote:
Neil, you do realise you are talking about Lyn/Lisa's Grandfather however many times , William Marshal is on their family tree. |
| rustyruth Posts: 18773 Joined: 23rd Oct 2012 Location: England | Posted at 22:40 on 10th July 2014 Great stuff Vince. I remember you saying they'd got a long way back with the family tree. I'm stuck in the 18th century with mine. |
| Vince Hawthorn Posts: 12758 Joined: 19th Apr 2010 Location: UK | Posted at 22:46 on 10th July 2014 Thanks Ruth, they are very pleased with the connections they have found , Lisa's favourite ancestor is as I have mentioned in the past, Adeliza of Louvain, ( Henry 1st's second wife ) . |
| Neil Rodgers Posts: 5119 Joined: 30th Jun 2013 Location: Spain | Posted at 22:50 on 10th July 2014 Ooooooops sorry and all that no offence implied Vince but changing alegance from William Marshall to king John was a big mistake. |
| Vince Hawthorn Posts: 12758 Joined: 19th Apr 2010 Location: UK | Posted at 22:54 on 10th July 2014 No worries Neil, and yes , William was a far better person than John. |
| Vince Hawthorn Posts: 12758 Joined: 19th Apr 2010 Location: UK | Posted at 23:07 on 10th July 2014 And so you are John, it is the other John to watch out for . |
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