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James Prescott
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Posted at 10:07 on 13th March 2013

Good Morning to all poe-sters-Thats one thing that does not interest me Ron  even though my best mate takes bets for a local Bookie.

You can guarantee though that the Irish will win a few bob.Wink

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Ron Brind
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Posted at 10:11 on 13th March 2013
Yeah, as always these fella's know what they are about!
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Peggy Cannell
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Posted at 11:34 on 13th March 2013
Thamks Shirley that brought a few smiles to start the day with
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editPosted at 21:51 on 13th March 2013

I watched the pope on tv this morning so much reminded me of myself when I was made the supervisor...had the abilty but was still pretty humble as if I could fit the shoes of the position handed over to me. As for St. Francis of Assissi, have much admired him through the years..he use to have "visions" also. He knew the animals and the plant life was just as important as mankind also upon earth.  I can imagine that South America feels like the world has finally recongnized their faithfulness to the church also...as well as the poverty they endure. I hope they can look to an decent and upright faith.... more so then the Drug Cartel.  So far it seems to been an wise choice.

Trying to get use to the " light "from not having those trees outside any more...makes the street look huge and houses further apart. I think I can now get around to writing Bill Porter and Phillip Lawson with what I've found now...we all three know that our Lawson line comes off King Edward III..just could never figure it out how. We also knew there was an connection from England to Scotland at the time also..as well as Ireland...militarily. Our Lawson line was an brotherto King Edward IV...he was apparently raised by Lionel Antwerpt and later on the William Marshall family....he was George Planegent until the beginning of the War of Roses...by then he had changed his name to Marmaduke...and when he was knighted 1398 he changed it to Sir Georg Lawson....he is said to been an brother of Sir John Lawson. I have records of him being born in 1449...the breakthrough came upom investingating this title of "Duke of Clarence" in part. He is an "templar knight" and went into the church...at the time of the War of Roses. It is being said that the name of "Clare" is coming from the de Clare family lived in Lionel's territory...they were the not yet "Scottish" line of SinClairs in Scotland. But I do not think that there was not another "effect"...that being St. Bernard Clairovix in France. Lionel's wife was one of the "de Clare" descendents. Staint Bernard, of France...had an brother from Ireland...named
Gerald the Poet".....and the templar knights are forever leaving little sympbolisms you know...the name of Pole...was also one of the names I have of this family I was telling you all about yesterday thatwas said George Plangent's daughter. This "Pole" family I think is also the "Roet" family coming from Katherine Swithfords marriedas his third wife...John Guant. (King)...son of Edward III. St. It was an house owned by the Swinths (fords)/Jessops where Marmaduke Lawson was hiding out in to keep from being killed like his enitre family. St. Bernard of Clairvaux outlines the rules of the Templar Knights, who later became the ideal of christain Nobilty.they say in Ireland that "Gerald the Poet" came up missing in 1398..same year my records from England say "Sir George Lawson" was knighted. They fled to France is why they dissapeared...the children of Joan Gaunt and Katerine Swynford were made to takeon the name of "Beaufort"...her son named Thomas married Sir JOhn Darcy's widow...Beafort's are connected to the Chateau de Beaufort, Meuse-et-loire, France....and it was the help of the so called Latter Day Staints church that provided me the "other" name of the Earl of  Surrey...as Count Mulens..and William Plantegent who is raised and takes of the name of the man that raised him...being William de Warrene and later Earl William Marshall.  They have this name mispelled in wikipedia as Hemlin..or something on that order. Our "Scottish Rebel" William Lawson of Scotland military history connected with "George" Lawson is also of this line as King Edwardlived in Scotland for some time at the dissoultion of the Templar Knight's at Edinburgh. Militarlily they have the Scottish Lawson's as coming off the McClaren clan...as they do my Larkinin Ireland off the "O"Larcan lineage...but in all reality...at sometime they were both most likley the same. They were in both places before Queen Eilzabeth decided she wanted the homes of the Irish for summer cottages.  My templar knights were never "catholics" but much persecuted by them...as " Kings" they had to pay homeage to them. Like Sir John Lawson...Geroge probably took to the seas because he couldn't go back home...they had destroyed it for him.I talk of several gnerations here also.  The Abbott of Clairavaux nearDijon, France started out as an Roman Settlement....from 840 ADto 1713...it was home to the Dukes of Burgnany....Counts of the Caroliingian Dynasty, the Bosnid Dynasty, House of Capet...which may be where the "Roet/Pole" name derived from, House of Hapsberg, House of Burbon, House of Valois-Burgany.and the House of Robertian (King Robert of France). This area started out with the "Viking" named Rollo..who was the father of William the conqueror...first King of England. Henceforth the name of Rowland Lawson to history also. As King's they had so many illigitimate children from mistresses, it's next to un-beleivable. Many of the marriages going on between all the European countries were made for political reasons most the time...and they lived very hard lives most the time as an King or Queen...forming and battling to keep thier lands and family intact from others. The link of this line is from our George Lawson "will" here in early colonial America....when he mentions his "friend" Marion. I thought I was dealing with as was told the name dervived of the "Vrigin Mary"...but find it goes back much further to Gilliumene...shorted to "Giles" later on...which goes back to someone you all know...the father of King David In jersusalem..callled "Sullliume"....having been in many of the the Crusades...and related to the King of Jeusalem...and other ties...they simply picked up later on...I have the explicit information to verify that also.  O also thought that it might of come off Geoffery Buillion of France also...bu tthe name is so explicit...that he looks like another that derived the name also form Sulliume..probably didn't spell it correctly here though. It appears to me...that they have been for generations upon gnerations...keeping their ties to the "Gardenof Eden" alive though "Jesus" to the Franks..to the Carolinains and onward into the France, England, Scotland/Ireland and over here.Much more to it. I'd like ot talk two very old distinguished Lawson historians over here..long time known...William"Bill" Porter and Phillip..if they are still alive even these days. I know they have passed on the work of this to younger members...and into DNAtest results these days also. We also have with the name of "Porter" the name of "potete" also. The swifth family made it james Towne after it's founding and was included in teh 1622 Indian Massacre era...along with them an John Larkin. I have the Larkyn family with George Lawson in England being also knighted several times, and also said to been into high sheriffs' or the justice professions.  I do think people need to understand that as "Tempalr Knight's" that theylived in the castle with the king as his guards...so few unless they were given lands for service..owned nothing by name. If not for the King's quarters...they were under the churches as "protectors" often also. A LOT of detail work coming up.

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Sk Lawson
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Posted at 00:54 on 14th March 2013

I came back...to tell you about Robert de Beaumont, a companion of William I (conqueror) at Hastings was granted afterward much of the Midlands of England..mostly Warwickshire...but he also held land in Normany and is refered to as Count Meulan..and leading political figure in the reigns of William II, Henry I and on the death of oneIves de Grandmensi in the first Crusade. He was alledgeally the 1 st Earl of Leicaster...1102 creation...Robert's wife was Isable, duaghter of Hugh deCrepi (proabaly Capet)..syled "the Great", Count of Ver Mandois (younger son of Henry I, King of France, by Adelaide, daughter an heir of Herbert, Count of Vermandois and Valois..gave an church to the prior of Lewes, through son. (Most likely why Rowland Lawson line starts with the (Thomas( Lewson family... for the Lawson name. See complete Peerage (Burkes)....XII/1495-496. Sussex, England. George Planegant's wife ..Isabel Neville...(owned Raby Castle)...Duchess of Carence, born 1451, Warwick Castle died there1476, possibly posioned.

I have an cross reference on Robert de Muelan Beaumont that his wife was Princess of Dehcubarth, Isabel De Vermandois Rhys. Dhe was supposedly, through her father Hugh, an grandaughter of King Henry I of France. They apparently changed the name to Beaufortin England...but same people from the same place. Beaufort's married Robert de Ferrers, and he married or an name ake fo Elizabeth Le Botillert..Lords of Wem and Oversby...who are represented in Ireland by an early Theobald Le Botler...who anglicalized thier name as "Butler"...kinship of George Washington..(Wessingotn).  The Rhys name might be the begining of the name "Raby" perhaps.

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Ron Brind
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Posted at 08:42 on 14th March 2013

Phew, how do you do all this shirley....do you ever sleep?

Great stuff though, keep it coming!

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Sk Lawson
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Posted at 18:40 on 14th March 2013

This is not easy for me Ron...I got into all this from people wanting to know how they fit into the Kingdom of God's here on earth.  For so many of us, we have this kind of undefined "divine" calling of some sort we'd like to understand. Have you seen the pictures this morning of the Angel that appeared in Florida yesterday?....it doesn't look like it's got its trumpet out and ready to blow. Angels are the messengers from God. Native Americans came out of the wall here recently to give their "divine"  message..."Be yourself...God is your protection".....You are your own answers to life on earth"  Which means we have an certain "responsibilty" bestowed to us amoung ourselves....to be respectful and "nurturing" in the right kind of way.  For some reason I spent yesterday "crying"... kind of an "release" of some kind.,,,and yet an reallization also.  I think because this last week we have been so close to Armedgeddon one dare breathe...and yet there are some wise thinkers out there that helped us by pass it perhaps... in every aspect, " world-wide". I would guess besides George Plangenet....Lawson.....that our Massacuesetts Edward Larkin is also part of this "War of Roses"aftermath....why we don't know his beginning...he also left sort of an "Templar Knight" signature. I don't think King Richard killed the boys  in the tower...or at least the Ogle (oliver) family rescued them as I read one time...and he probably was taken to either Scoltand or Ireland. Martin family are part of this group also. Edward was probably named after King Edward III....something our Lawson family is showing...and threw me off guard on the Lawson's. It's for sure they aren't able to go back to the name of Plantegant. It's nice to know though that they went down with the Latter Day Saints church though...whom beleive they are saving their souls by collecting their genealogies.... to hand to the Lord someday...if not to leave to an future race.  There are four sets of the "Ancestors of Lazuras Longand lilieb 555" roles of www.freepages.genealogy.roots web.ancestory.com/~lazrslong/b275.htm.....that were translatedand made up form French and English lineages...many say that they are what's been said and would have to be authenticated for its truth if it's even possible these days. You can find links also if you look up the name Princess of Deheugarth.....both Nesta and Isabel were the line of Henry I Beaucler King of England...Nesta born 1070, died 1136 from an town called such in Wales. So this makes sense to me why there's also lineages coming from King Authur in this area also at one time when he's generally was known from around "Glasonbury".  I wonder if this name of "Rhys" comes from another "Fisher King"...if it's the start of the "Read" family also.  I consider Craig Rhea these days...part of an real "Scumb Bag" group that took down our Nursing home...for the most part they took everthing worth while in it  and left so it could fall on it's face...he knows what I think of him too..he ran into me and took one look at me and never said an word..knowing how I feel...I heard later he joined an church...what an sinner...good place for him...if he's not using "God" by now that is. the place they went to... also has went bankrupt. A fitting testimony of " God" vs money...but it sure hurt an lot of us.. and caused an lot of death along its way for the innocent.  I think if I were to ever say anything to the world...it would be to think that just because your not well known...or have lots of money...and even if you do....that we each have an purpose in life and for that alone weshould respect each other..curtail how much of the "muck" of lifewe allow in the world to run loose.  Understand that if someone is made to "give"..... that they still need help to survive.  

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Sk Lawson
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Posted at 18:59 on 14th March 2013

My husband also was in tears last night nearly as he told me he just got an call from his next to older sister...Joan... and that she was put on medication to regulate her heart.... and might be going in three weeks from now.... for an heart pace maker...she is 73 years old. 

Yesterday was "quite the day"...world-wide I think.  So now we can say that there is an reason why the "turtle woman" showing up and saying it's " coming from the south"...might have something better to say then just death and destruction....she has been seen for an long time now telling us this...by quite an few psychics and "visionaries" over the years. The Tuttle Clan represents the "foundation" of the earth...also those blue shell/beads I've mentioned before in the past. .

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Ron Brind
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Posted at 08:16 on 15th March 2013

Red Nose Day here in the UK...raising money for the kids, but will they get it all is always a big question for me?

Hi to all POEsters wherever you are.

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Peggy Cannell
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Posted at 10:51 on 15th March 2013

Phew Shirley what a read and what a busy life you have, don't know how you do all this research

Ron I thunk this about all charities

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