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rustyruth
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Posted at 20:11 on 19th March 2014
That's bad news John, why has everything got to be covered in new houses. There have been around 200 new ones built in our village over the past few years, they were petitioned against for years to no avail. There were originally to be around 400 but when the developers were told that they had to be built out of proper stone in keeping with the rest of the village the number got halved because of the cost, so that was something, but they're still a blot on the landscape.
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rustyruth
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Posted at 20:39 on 19th March 2014

You get the pics before it's too late John Smile

Calderdale Council had decided we were having the houses, it was the local parish council who put up a 15 year fight to get the numbers reduced, which they did because they stood their ground against Calderdale about the building material. Access was another problem, Calderdale wanted two points of access one from the main road, one from a country lane, they lost out on that one too, access is only from the main road, so we could  have done worse.

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Vince Hawthorn
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Posted at 21:36 on 19th March 2014
  That is so not good news John, apart from all the major upheaval in the area and the total drain on resources, on a personal level this must be so much a great loss for you. With your knowledge and passion for avaition it will be such a disappointment to you, is there not going to be any sort of protest or petition or as you say final?
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Sk Lawson
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Posted at 01:56 on 20th March 2014

Dare I make an suggestion...they have already worked up over before we go tit through their heads that building any more out this way is leaving potental problems with Mt. Hood so close by...it's still an volcano you know. Not so much danger from it erupting, but might be from ice melting inside the caldra and sending down an wall of water possibly..right over highway 26 and the main artery to get up there or for the people to evacuate. The citzens formed their own city to stop the building by county personnel living about 40 miles away handing out building permits like candy canes..never looking into the issues for safety.

My suggestion...if your stuck with all these houses...build them two story...with living upstairs and cottage/craft/small shop business downstairs...then...do like they do in Canada...make an curb side parking out front...and house garages in the back..with an round center field of grass for people in general. Maybe an play are off to one side. Leave enough yard out back for an garden also.Make one kind of alley way in an circle around the end of the yards out back. The could be as high as three stories.  What this does is gives the house out back looking like an house...and in front things looking like business ought to be...with parking. But the local homowners would never have to drive to get to say the small cafes, office shops, camera shops, docotor clinics, pizza parlors and the like..saving heavy traffice congestion in the area...and the circl round of grass out behind could be used for helicopter set down..in case of emergencies...or transports to an larger city. The advantage of this kind of design...is closest to shopping, area for flight transport, and housing not looking out on an traffic street...it still has an kind of "privacy" to the people. You don' thave this if the houses set for miles upon miles down the road...where you have to travel to shop, you have to travel to get outside city services..such as flying. People can fence in an ddo what they want to with their yard area...and it should be ample enough as I said to sit on the balcony above and watch the kids playing down below...or grow gardens, set up tents, and do whatever repairs might be done outside..done without rubbing elbows with the guy next door to you. The rubbing with the guy next to you turns me off. We lived in an ranch one level housefor five years in the standard..build them along the street affair, I use to in the morning, be opening my livingroom window curtains and drinking my coffee as my nieghbor was doing the same thing and we both looking at each other with an small wave of the hand "good morning"...it got tiresome.  The house across from em now faces the street the other way...it's on an corner, I see their side yard..beside if is an flag lot toward the back...they have an alley way landscaped to get out to the main road in front of my house. My neighbors on both side of me I don't see, because there's an four way corner I'm on...one end is dead ended, one end is into my nieghbors yard, with leaves an drive around the corner to my neighbor with the side yard facing my front yard. The fact that I can see an distance down the street..makes me feel like I'm not locked into and cubical neighborhood. Across from me the side yard is planted in evergreen trees..I can see thier yard to about where the limbs are above the tires of their car. So I can see whose out there, but it's not like an full straight on view between us. I like it that way also.The lims are down low enough and their front patio high enough that I might know they are out there, but I can't watch everything they are doing really. The new housing up the main artery street they put in the yards so little that most the people never fenced the houses...so they'd have any yard. They have the room for an patio table, small BBQ...and enough grass to let the dog to go the bathroom and that was that. Needless to say, people live there long enough to get some equity and leave, so they are constantly up for sale. Because they don't seem like real "homes".... to bring up an growing family in. They do great for two to three people at most...but not for five...the ususal number in family housing.

My sister just called, her Christmas present broke. And rocker recliner...she's unhappy. She's trying to save money to buy her an car so she doesn't have to walk miles to get to her service centerfor help.  It's to hot in the summer and rainy and not the greatest of weather in the winter.

I was in an state of drepression this morning...this little girl showing her arm tattoo (photo)...she was with her mother when she died of her cancer...34 years old... and the last thing her mother did was grabbed an ink pen an write across her arm..."Remeber I'll always love you!.....Mommy. Whomever did the tatooing, did it over her mother's written words, so her mother's signature in making this last note is perfectly in tact..and simply intact..with just those simple words. Made me want to "cry" and it still does. they have had upteen years to find an cure...upteen...billions of dollars also. 

I got the table cloth bought and started some easter decorations out at the kids' house today and took them out an huge dinner..spaghetti with fresh fruit and salad..and two loaves freshly made French Bread. Two bottles of wine for Easter. Donuts for tomarrow morning. So, I guess I go for now and take my daily bath and relax. Have an good evening.

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Sk Lawson
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Posted at 02:10 on 20th March 2014

I was also appauled at tonight's news segament...where they showed that dear  asian mother crying for her son, breaking up and wanting to know why they haven't found them as yet...so the security guards from the hotel they them in rooms... into sitting it out...came up and hauled her out, bodily... while she cried in beverarment, fighting fo r"answers"....I thought to myself...why didn't some kind person, anyone .go up and "hug" this mother and say they "understood" and offer thier shoulder to cry upon.... to get it the "tension" out of this woman...that's what she really needed. the news caster said afterwards...and how would you... if it were your loved one... react? 

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James Prescott
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Posted at 09:27 on 20th March 2014
Good Morning all -everyone ok ??Smile
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Richard Sellers
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Posted at 12:52 on 20th March 2014

Hello all, sorry to hear about the airport,  things like this are happening all over , here in the rockies, after last septembers massive flooding in the mts. certain towns are gone forever along with business's.

Let us try and focus on the good in any situation, 

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rustyruth
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Posted at 13:43 on 20th March 2014

Afternoon everyone, all's well here James Smile

That is bad news about whole towns and businesses going Richard Frown 

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rustyruth
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Posted at 14:03 on 20th March 2014
I really hope that it can be saved John, but sadly once housing developers get involved all they think of is their profits and not our history. I didn't know that about the runway, very interesting.
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James Prescott
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Posted at 14:15 on 20th March 2014

The same thing happened not far from me--as a youngster i was brought up a couple of miles away from the usaaf base at Burtonwood nr Warrington in fact i was very friendly with a few families who were stationed over here in the 50s/60s.

When the air base closed in the mid 60s (it was the biggest in Europe) everything was demolished -in fact there was an attempt to keep the control tower and searchlight as a Historical reminder but it never materialised-all gone now to make way for the M62 motorway--oh there are a few Americans still living there but their fathers have returned home.Smile happy days they were.

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