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Ray Stear
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quotePosted at 15:04 on 3rd December 2008
Hi Diana. What is that book about then?
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Diana Sinclair
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quotePosted at 15:52 on 3rd December 2008

Ray, A Course in Miracles was written by Dr. Helen Schucman and Dr. William Thetford and describes a new approach to spirituality based on Christian teachings. Schucman dictated the book based on an inner voice, which she described as coming from a divine source, specifically Jesus Christ. The book uses traditional Judeo-Christian terminology, but is not aligned to the doctrines of any religions or denominations.

The book describes a system of an unconscious mind, defense mechanisms and subconscious goals, then claims to offer a means of reconciling conflicts within this system through forgiveness and the relinquishment of guilt.

Most Christians consider the book irreverent and misguided at best and evil at worse.  I am enjoying it very much...but then I don't typically allow my spirituality to be dictated by any one source, be it a church or a book.

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Andy Edwards
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quotePosted at 16:22 on 3rd December 2008

Hi Ray, hi Diana.

I remember it well too Ray. This book appears to be written pre- 2000, and very interesting.Goodness only knows what he's doing now!!

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Richard Sellers
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quotePosted at 16:35 on 3rd December 2008

I am reading Ron Brind's book"A Guide to the C.S. Lewis Tour in Oxford "

It is a must read!!!

Just finished The best New British Mysteries,,edited by Maxim Jakubowski,a collection of stories by different authors,such as Ian Rankin,Colin Dexter

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Shirley K. Lawson
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quotePosted at 19:42 on 3rd December 2008

I think I'll go an see if I can find the one that "coast" had on last night called "The History of Dreaming" by Austrailian Robert Moss, he sounded interesting on the showl ast night, historian teacher, had several near-death expereinces also, and kind of gives techniques for interpreting your dreams as well as interesting facts about people in the past that have had them through the ages.. goes from layman to shaman. He sounds a lot like me in my life in ways, you know there use to be no one out there that talked about near-death expereinces or coming out of them either, it was kind of "taboo" to society, but it's been around as long as man has been around. I'm not talking about the ususal stuff of seeing "the light at the end of the tunnel" stuff, I'm talking abou the weird "other"stuff you pick up after having one of them. Things like precongnitive visions, and an "knowing" about others and situations that hard to describe to others. The other world as I call it...and it's manfesting to you. Strong intutive feelings and how to deal with them...when many times you might be helpless. After watching what the world does to "seers" and how society puts them in an "box" I don't think I'd really want to be known as one in ways. For one thing to be listened to one must have an steady supply of disasters to be avoided, where upon there is instant denial of you and constant having to "prove" youself for every word said. That's not my style at all. I'm an"learner" and try to be an helper also...but I don't have thousands of dollars to follow around the latest knowledgable guru out there to learn something. This is hard for me at times to discuss also. I've had one expereince where I was told you can't interfer with others, they must go their own choices, but the least you can do is help them explore the choices they have out in the world for them perhaps. Guardian angels must have patience  to the upmost degree with us.

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Ray Stear
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quotePosted at 19:56 on 3rd December 2008
On 3rd December 2008 15:52, Diana Sinclair wrote:

Ray, A Course in Miracles was written by Dr. Helen Schucman and Dr. William Thetford and describes a new approach to spirituality based on Christian teachings. Schucman dictated the book based on an inner voice, which she described as coming from a divine source, specifically Jesus Christ. The book uses traditional Judeo-Christian terminology, but is not aligned to the doctrines of any religions or denominations.

The book describes a system of an unconscious mind, defense mechanisms and subconscious goals, then claims to offer a means of reconciling conflicts within this system through forgiveness and the relinquishment of guilt.

Most Christians consider the book irreverent and misguided at best and evil at worse.  I am enjoying it very much...but then I don't typically allow my spirituality to be dictated by any one source, be it a church or a book.

Hi Diana,

This seems to contain elements of Scientology, (which I know nothing about so forgive me if I have this wrong), metaphysics, and psychology.You are very wise to not allow your spirituality to be influenced by one source, this stance limits your thinking and outlook; and is a barrier to receiving new ideas and interesting concepts and subjects.

I will see if I can get this book then be in a position to give you my feedback on it. Thank you for the information.

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Cathy E.
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quotePosted at 05:10 on 4th December 2008

This book seems to put everything into perspective!

"The Purpose of Christmas" by Rick Warren 

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Diana Sinclair
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quotePosted at 21:49 on 4th December 2008
On 3rd December 2008 19:56, Ray Stear wrote:
On 3rd December 2008 15:52, Diana Sinclair wrote:

Ray, A Course in Miracles was written by Dr. Helen Schucman and Dr. William Thetford and describes a new approach to spirituality based on Christian teachings. Schucman dictated the book based on an inner voice, which she described as coming from a divine source, specifically Jesus Christ. The book uses traditional Judeo-Christian terminology, but is not aligned to the doctrines of any religions or denominations.

The book describes a system of an unconscious mind, defense mechanisms and subconscious goals, then claims to offer a means of reconciling conflicts within this system through forgiveness and the relinquishment of guilt.

Most Christians consider the book irreverent and misguided at best and evil at worse.  I am enjoying it very much...but then I don't typically allow my spirituality to be dictated by any one source, be it a church or a book.

Hi Diana,

This seems to contain elements of Scientology, (which I know nothing about so forgive me if I have this wrong), metaphysics, and psychology.You are very wise to not allow your spirituality to be influenced by one source, this stance limits your thinking and outlook; and is a barrier to receiving new ideas and interesting concepts and subjects.

I will see if I can get this book then be in a position to give you my feedback on it. Thank you for the information.


Ray, if you read the book, I would be very interested in what you think about it (email me privately and we can discuss it).  Among the various groups I organize each month I have one that is a non traditional book group (we don't assign books to read, rather, we gather and discuss topics from various books everyone is reading). In this group we focus primarily on self-help books of all genres, be they secular or spiritual in nature. It's a lot of fun!
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Ray Stear
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quotePosted at 22:05 on 4th December 2008

Hi Diana,

That does sound like a lot of fun. Give me some time to track down this book and I will read it with interest. I have run  'Anger Management'  and 'Personal Development' groups for people with mental health issues, and learning difficulties. d I know how beneficial these 'self help' and mutual support sessions can be.



Edited by: Ray Stear at:4th December 2008 22:05
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Diana Sinclair
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quotePosted at 13:37 on 5th December 2008
Excellent Ray! I'll look forward to hearing from you. Smile
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