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rustyruth
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quotePosted at 14:17 on 25th January 2014

There's a couple of Photoshopped images just been uploaded for sale which I personally don't like the idea of.

Do you mean just deleting the for sale option John ? that would be a good idea.

You do what you need to do Ron.

I'm editing away here because I'm making a mess of spelling today Smile 



Edited by: rustyruth at:25th January 2014 14:31
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Edward Lever
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quotePosted at 16:44 on 25th January 2014

In my experience, heavily 'photoshopped' images will not sell. Some effects can be beneficial, such as perspective correction and straightening, but the 'Art' effects are best left alone if you want to sell.

An artist might be interested in the original image, but will always want to do the 'photoshopping'  themself. I have no problem with any of my original images being 'photoshopped', provided of course, an acknowledgement is given along the lines of 'From an original Photograph by Fred Bloggs' 

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Ron Brind
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quotePosted at 17:20 on 25th January 2014

May I respectfully suggest that you do not delete any pictures that are already submitted and approved. The reason is they will already have established a place on POE and will be potentially helping POE rather than you delete and possibly knock out pages.

Chris and Sarah would/will delete as and when considered necessary so don't worry, but thanks for thinking of the hosting for example. You really are a great bunch of people and I love that you love POE so much.

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rustyruth
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quotePosted at 17:57 on 25th January 2014
Understood Ron Smile
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Dave John
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quotePosted at 18:03 on 25th January 2014
On 25th January 2014 16:44, Edward Lever wrote:

In my experience, heavily 'photoshopped' images will not sell. Some effects can be beneficial, such as perspective correction and straightening, but the 'Art' effects are best left alone if you want to sell.

An artist might be interested in the original image, but will always want to do the 'photoshopping'  themself. I have no problem with any of my original images being 'photoshopped', provided of course, an acknowledgement is given along the lines of 'From an original Photograph by Fred Bloggs' 

There have been a lot of uploads recently that have been heavily 'photoshopped' and have to agree they look way over the top. Also the same can be said of a lot of recent HDR images. HDR is an excellent process but so easy to overdo. As to any purchasers wanting to photoshop images I am not so sure about. Surely they are buying the image as seen presumably to be used for whatever purpose as purchased. Also I wonder is it built into the purchasing contract that the photographer should be credited with the original image. If for any reason they do alter the image then they will not be using the image they have bought, so is a credit required then? But having said that I do agree with Edwards sugestion for credit

Edited by: Dave John at:25th January 2014 18:22
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Dave John
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quotePosted at 18:20 on 25th January 2014

CALM DOWN FOLKS, I think things are getting a bit hasty and out of hand with the issue of 'selling'. I'm sure Ron, Chris or Sarah will correct me if I am wrong but I do not think the idea is to change POE into a PHOTO AGENCY but simply a sideline to try to generate much needed funds and as a biproduct give the photographer a few bob to boot. If it was going to be run as an agency every photo would have to be checked meticulously for all the points that have been made before re quality, compostion, editing flaws etc etc etc. That would take a lot of valuable time that Chris and Sarah simply have not got and would undoubtedly result a huge percentage of photo submissions being rejected. I fully intend to continue to upload photos that I like and that I hope you like. They will all be ticked as available for sale, simply as part of my commitment to, and passion for, POE. If I sell one image I will be delighted, if I sell more than one then I think someone may need to visit Specsavers!!!

By all means folks check your quality and horizons etc but please do not stop uploading simply because you think an image will not sell. You will be doing yourselves an injustice and not supporting POE !!!

 

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rustyruth
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quotePosted at 18:20 on 25th January 2014
Thanks Dave, my phone camera has HDR setting, I've never used it because I didn't know what it did. I've just Googled to find out, now I know I probably still won't use it, the images don't look real to me.
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Dave John
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quotePosted at 18:35 on 25th January 2014
No problem Ruth that is another thing POE is so good at helping and advising our friends. There is only REAL way to do HDR and that is by taking several images at various settings and processing in an editing progarm such as PHOTOMATIX. But of course your cameara would have to be on a tripod the framing of the image is exact. It is primarily used when the contrast range of the intended image is too wide for the camera sensor to process. But if done properly is a very good process. And no I don't use it. Maybe worth trying it on your phone just for fun, you got nothing to lose.
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rustyruth
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quotePosted at 18:43 on 25th January 2014
Thanks, I'll give it a go Dave. I really only use my phone if it's the only camera I have with me which is very rare. I don't have a tripod for the phone but I have a little bean bag thingy that I can sit it on. It's not actually that bad a camera, no where near as good as the newer models but not bad.
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Dave John
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quotePosted at 18:45 on 25th January 2014
I would imagine the phone will do all the processing for you and just exhibit one image.
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