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Xxxx Xxxx Posts: 292 Joined: 22nd Mar 2009 Location: Canada	quotePosted at 14:16 on 22nd May 2009 When I read this wordy c..p about god, organised religion ~ I thank my lucky stars my mother was an atheist, as was my grandmother. Edited by: Ron Brind at:24th May 2009 19:04 My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Jason T Posts: 7421 Joined: 14th Apr 2004 Location: UK	quotePosted at 14:19 on 22nd May 2009 true, but abstinence can create pretty wierd moods for people, after all its a pretty base instinct, and very normal thing, in fact it really is all we are designed for! reproduce! so preventing people doing it will make for pretty mixed up feelings, take that back to their childhoods, and maybe the normal progression of boy meeting girl, just beginning to realise feelings etc... is not allowed to happen, and instead only allowed to mix with other young boys, strange feelings may start to happen, as they get older the feelings remain the norm for them?? does this make any sense?? just a theory! My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Diana Sinclair Posts: 10119 Joined: 3rd Apr 2008 Location: USA	quotePosted at 14:27 on 22nd May 2009 I understand your point Jason, and personally I disagree with the whole celibacy thing, but my point is that no one is forced into this life style, they choose it. No one is forcing anyone to be celibate against their will. But even that is beside the point. Pedophilia is a deep psychological problem where otherwise (usually) healthy adults have a perverted sexual attraction to children, it exists irrespective of the outside environment. In other words, celibacy doesn't make you a pedophile. Edited by: Diana Sinclair at:22nd May 2009 14:27 My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Barbara Shoemaker Posts: 1764 Joined: 4th Jan 2008 Location: USA	quotePosted at 14:27 on 22nd May 2009 Yes, Jason, it does make sense. As Ruth and others have said though, the behavior goes deeper than that and is not limited to the Catholic church. And there are of course many Catholic priests and nuns who are faithful in their spiritual walk and are equally appalled as we are. My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Barbara Shoemaker Posts: 1764 Joined: 4th Jan 2008 Location: USA	quotePosted at 14:35 on 22nd May 2009 On 22nd May 2009 14:27, Diana Sinclair wrote: I understand your point Jason, and personally I disagree with the whole celibacy thing, but my point is that no one is forced into this life style, they choose it. No one is forcing anyone to be celibate against their will. But even that is beside the point. Pedophilia is a deep psychological problem where otherwise (usually) healthy adults have a perverted sexual attraction to children, it exists irrespective of the outside environment. In other words, celibacy doesn't make you a pedophile. It's a shame though that once they discover their perverted tendencies, they don't repent and turn away from it or remove themselves from their position in the church and get help. It doesn't help either when their superiors cover it up rather than calling them out. My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Krissy Posts: 15430 Joined: 8th Jul 2008 Location: USA	quotePosted at 14:38 on 22nd May 2009 On 22nd May 2009 14:35, Barbara Shoemaker wrote: On 22nd May 2009 14:27, Diana Sinclair wrote: I understand your point Jason, and personally I disagree with the whole celibacy thing, but my point is that no one is forced into this life style, they choose it. No one is forcing anyone to be celibate against their will. But even that is beside the point. Pedophilia is a deep psychological problem where otherwise (usually) healthy adults have a perverted sexual attraction to children, it exists irrespective of the outside environment. In other words, celibacy doesn't make you a pedophile. It's a shame though that once they discover their perverted tendencies, they don't repent and turn away from it or remove themselves from their position in the church and get help. It doesn't help either when their superiors cover it up rather than calling them out. Exactly!!!! My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Diana Sinclair Posts: 10119 Joined: 3rd Apr 2008 Location: USA	quotePosted at 14:46 on 22nd May 2009 On 22nd May 2009 14:35, Barbara Shoemaker wrote: On 22nd May 2009 14:27, Diana Sinclair wrote: I understand your point Jason, and personally I disagree with the whole celibacy thing, but my point is that no one is forced into this life style, they choose it. No one is forcing anyone to be celibate against their will. But even that is beside the point. Pedophilia is a deep psychological problem where otherwise (usually) healthy adults have a perverted sexual attraction to children, it exists irrespective of the outside environment. In other words, celibacy doesn't make you a pedophile. It's a shame though that once they discover their perverted tendencies, they don't repent and turn away from it or remove themselves from their position in the church and get help. It doesn't help either when their superiors cover it up rather than calling them out. Agreed Barbara! The general consensus among psychological professionals today is that pedophilia can not be cured. They don't know why. And as far as I am concerned it is one of the true definitions of evil out there. If you've ever heard a pedophile interviewed they are totally unrepentant. They believe that sexual contact with children is perfectly normal. It just makes you want to vomit! But that is the answer to your question; they don't repent or seek help because they don't think there is anything wrong with it. Edited by: Diana Sinclair at:22nd May 2009 14:46 My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Krissy Posts: 15430 Joined: 8th Jul 2008 Location: USA	quotePosted at 14:51 on 22nd May 2009 So then why don't these priests get the help they need? Are they removed from their church or just shuffled off to another? Or does the Catholic church not want to tarnish their image by admitting what is happening and sending these priest to get help?? My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Barbara Shoemaker Posts: 1764 Joined: 4th Jan 2008 Location: USA	quotePosted at 14:52 on 22nd May 2009 Agreed Barbara! The general consensus among psychological professionals today is that pedophilia can not be cured. They don't know why. And as far as I am concerned it is one of the true definitions of evil out there. If you've ever heard a pedophile interviewed they are totally unrepentant. They believe that sexual contact with children is perfectly normal. It just makes you want to vomit! But that is the answer to your question; they don't repent or seek help because they don't think there is anything wrong with it. So true, Diana. My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions
Diana Sinclair Posts: 10119 Joined: 3rd Apr 2008 Location: USA	quotePosted at 15:03 on 22nd May 2009 On 22nd May 2009 14:51, Krissy wrote: So then why don't these priests get the help they need? Are they removed from their church or just shuffled off to another? Or does the Catholic church not want to tarnish their image by admitting what is happening and sending these priest to get help?? Ah, that is another issue all together my friend. Again, we as the public have tolerated it for so long that everyone just turns a blind eye. I read an article once on a study where hundreds of adults, who as children had been sexually abused by priests, were asked if they had ever tried to tell anyone about the abuse. Almost without exception the answer was yes, they had told their parents, but the parents became angry at the child and accused them of being blasphemous attention seekers. The children kept their mouths shut after that. If mom and dad didn't believe them, who else would? The bottom line is we (again, not members of this forum specifically, but people in general) are responsible for allowing this type of abuse to go on. My favourite: Pictures \| Towns \| Attractions