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quote | editPosted at 13:20 on 25th November 2008
It can't be Andy because I managed it Laughing
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Andy Edwards
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quotePosted at 13:25 on 25th November 2008
Exactly. Lyn, you must try the 'close up' filter for the Fuji.....it cuts the focal length in half on the built in macro. I think mine cost about £25 and it's really good for those 'close up' shots!
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quotePosted at 13:27 on 25th November 2008
On 25th November 2008 12:04, Lyn Brant wrote:

I was going to say - Our eyes are a far more powerful than even the most impressive camera lens, including my own failing eyes Laughing Eyes have the ability to see large dynamic ranges that cameras can‘t even come close to matching. A photo is made up of light and shadow, eyes can interpret allot more variation in light. Photoshop and others like it, even the most basic editors like the one I use is seen as a way of fixing what the camera failed to do, it won’t ever make a bad photo good and people are always going to enhance, like myself, maybe a bit too much for most peoples taste but like photography it‘s trial and error.

Jason said it so much better and it’s all getting a bit to technical for a biff like myself so I will just say to Stephen, your Lincoln shots are great, Lincoln is my favourite place to visit, I love the cathedral especially at night when it’s all lit up, now that is a jaw dropping sight though sadly I have only seen it at night from a train and Andy, I think your photos are great also, excellent choice of camera if I may say so Laughing

A bit too  technical for me as well.  I've never even owned a polarizing filter, even when I had a film camera. Lyn, thanks for your comment about my Lincoln photos. I have been there twice and the  first time was very dull. I have to book well in advance to get the cheap ticket, so have to take pot luck with the weather.
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quote | editPosted at 13:34 on 25th November 2008
On 25th November 2008 13:25, Andy Edwards wrote:
Exactly. Lyn, you must try the 'close up' filter for the Fuji.....it cuts the focal length in half on the built in macro. I think mine cost about £25 and it's really good for those 'close up' shots!

Thank's for that advice Andy I will look into the "close up" filter, never heard of it before.
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quotePosted at 13:45 on 25th November 2008
Neither had I. It was just good fortune that I delivered to a photography shop early last summer and I spotted the filters. The owner of the shop asked me if I took insect pictures, to which I replied, ''occasionally'', he recommended the filter and all last summer I was chasing butterflies and dragonflies!!! It makes all the difference in the world and even on dull days you get a good result.
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quotePosted at 14:50 on 25th November 2008

I think I am going to upset everyone now. The human eye is nowhere near as good as a camera lens. The only area in focus, is a small area in the center of of your view with a human eye. If a camera lens was sold with the quality of the "EYE", it would be useless. The only benefit of the eye's, is that you have binocular vision. The camera is monocular. By moving your eye's across a scene, the eye refocuses to each area as it crosses your field of vision. It also sets the iris to the change in light hitting the retina.
A camera will be in focus all over the frame, provided the "Iris" opening is set small enough. It is the human brain that put's all this information together to give us the scene in front of us. So we do need to control the contrast of digital photos to replicate what our brains do automatically for us.
Here endeth the the first lesson. He he he.

BTW, a polarizing filter works wonders in assisting with this contrast problem.



Edited by: Peter Evans at:25th November 2008 14:52
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quotePosted at 14:54 on 25th November 2008
On 25th November 2008 14:50, Peter Evans wrote:

I think I am going to upset everyone now. The human eye is nowhere near as good as a camera lens. The only area in focus, is a small area in the center of of your view with a human eye. If a camera lens was sold with the quality of the "EYE", it would be useless. The only benefit of the eye's, is that you have binocular vision. The camera is monocular. By moving your eye's across a scene, the eye refocuses to each area as it crosses your field of vision. It also sets the iris to the change in light hitting the retina.
A camera will be in focus all over the frame, provided the "Iris" opening is set small enough. It is the human brain that put's all this information together to give us the scene in front of us. So we do need to control the contrast of digital photos to replicate what our brains do automatically for us.
Here endeth the the first lesson. He he he.

BTW, a polarizing filter works wonders in assisting with this contrast problem.


Smart assLaughing  your right of course, but you get the idea, the image from a camera is not as advanced as the one created in the brain.Smile
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Peter Evans
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quotePosted at 15:00 on 25th November 2008

He he he.

Nor is the CCD as good. It cant make a sharp image, at full size,without a lttle help from sharpening.

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quote | editPosted at 15:17 on 25th November 2008
You are so clever Peter, my brain hurts just reading that Laughing
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quotePosted at 15:21 on 25th November 2008
so dose mine and all
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