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quotePosted at 07:23 on 17th June 2008
Good morning Ray, yes I have put my comment in LOL
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Karen Pugh
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quotePosted at 08:13 on 17th June 2008

Andy, I'm with you on this, well said.  Cumbria and Yorkshire are very similar in some ways.  Tight and stubborn come to mind lol

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Andy Edwards
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quotePosted at 08:22 on 17th June 2008
And English Karen, traditional, non commercial, genuine!
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Sue H
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quotePosted at 13:53 on 17th June 2008
On 17th June 2008 06:43, Dennis White wrote:

Up until this past April, my thought of England consisted entirely of literary and cinematic images.  Dickens, Stories about our Pilgrims, and our War of Independence, Shakespeare, 007, Tolkien, Lewis, The Beatles, Wallice and Grommit, Braveheart Monty Python ... and on and on...  all my life I've been reading about England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland - legends, heros, villians, magic, Christian heritage, bloody wars, amazing romance, vicious cruelty, ancient customs and traditions.  All that instilled in me a great desire to visit, to see the land that gave birth to my country, inspired our laws, informed our view of reality.  So last April my wife Nadia and I finally fulfilled our dream of traveling to Paris and to England.  When we arrived in London (on the Chunnel from Paris), we bee-lined it directly to Oxford, and the first person we talked to at any length was Ron Brind.  So I immediately associated every one of my imaginative memories of England to that jovial, mischevious, inteligent and passionate man.  Yes, Ron, you are England - Old and Young, dangerous and tepid, romantic and risque, formal and spontaneous, funny and serious, like an old friend and yet unpredictable. 

 There's a lot about England that struck us as cozy - like an over-stuffed chair next to a fire, and much else that was dark and disturbing, like the clash of modern and ancient buldings, people dressed in tweed next to pierced, tatooed, electrified youth.  There's a love for bold, new direction juxtaposed with very old, beloved tradition.  Christian artifacts and churches intermingled with any and all other kinds of religions expressions, and a paletable athesim.  In a word, there are no words to describe England.  I much prefer being your firiend than your foe.  I'd die for your freedom, but disdain your socialism.  (I disdain our socialism too.)  And the fact is, I want to go on believing in the England of my dreams - which isn't all that difficult, for we are allies still, and share in common more than we differ, both good and bad.

 Oh, and we (Nadia and I) really love your accents.  That's one glaring weakness in a blog like this.  Not much of an accent, though your choices of words and phrases do help!

God save the Queen!

 

You express yourself so well Denis, I wish I could do the same.

Don't let Andy pop your bubble, England is still England if you go over with blinders on as I do every year. I keep away from the big cities and the suburbs, I don't eat at foreign restaurants and I try not to watch the news or attempt to pronounce the names of people in the 'local' papers.

I am glad that you also got to meet Ron, and I loved your description of him which is exactly as I found him to be (and tall, did I tell you he was tall?).

Come again, leave the big cities behind and visit those little out of the way villages. I spent a wonderful half hour stuck behind a broken down tractor on a very tiny road leading out of the village of Slaughterford, Wiltshire. There was no going forward and no going backward, the banks were high on each side and full of flowers, a church stood in the middle of a field full of cows. It was heaven itself.

I do so love my country, my countryside.

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Ron Brind
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quotePosted at 15:45 on 17th June 2008

Steady Dennis, I'll hardly be able to get through the door! I admit to having a smile on my face when I read that post Dennis, but you know somehow I really connect with it because sometimes here in the forum I will say something quite literally, to get the members responding! So yes, I am all of the things that you mention....thank you my friend. I trust Nadia is well? Please pass on my best wishes, I certainly haven't forgotton either of you! Blimey, how could I? Oh, and by the way Andy you heard it hear first 'Ron you are England'.....Thinks, where's that Peter, I've got one up on him at last!

>>>jovial, mischevious, inteligent and passionate man. And sometimes I feel like the over-stuffed chair next to a fire too!

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Ruth Gregory
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quotePosted at 15:50 on 17th June 2008
I think that's why you're so lovable, Ron.  Smile
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Ron Brind
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quotePosted at 15:57 on 17th June 2008

Sue H, I really don't deserve all your praise (oh well if you insist). But thank you also for your love, care and attention that makes for our friendship. I really do have so many friends here in the POE forum despite the banter, which we all know is part of the joy of it all. That's the power of POE!!

>>>Sue H writes: 'I am glad that you also got to meet Ron, and I loved your description of him which is exactly as I found him to be (and tall, did I tell you he was tall?). Sue H, Dennis and his lovely wife Nadia did the C. S. Lewis Tour with me here in Oxford, so yes he would have been able to judge for himself (because like you said, he met me see....tut, tut and ha, ha!). For example the quote about the 'over-stuffed' chair next to the fire! H'mmm, perhaps we don't need to pursue that one! Thank you my friends for all your support and take care!  

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Peter Evans
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quotePosted at 20:04 on 17th June 2008

Tell us Ron, how long did it take you to pen those reports for Sue and Dennis. Also how much did it cost you to bribe them to post them.

I am Wales. Cumru um bydd.

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Andy Edwards
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quotePosted at 20:21 on 17th June 2008

Don't let Andy pop your bubble, England is still England if you go over with blinders on as I do every year. I keep away from the big cities and the suburbs, I don't eat at foreign restaurants and I try not to watch the news or attempt to pronounce the names of people in the 'local' papers.

Sue H, you've just said exactly what I did! My point is that tourists head for the big cities, and the suburbs. London, Birmingham, Oxford, Cambridge (sorry Ron), Bristol, Leeds, the list goes on and on. You don't eat in foriegn restaurants Sue, thats good....nothing English about them! Take your blinders off though Sue, because what you see with them off is real, there's not a lot of point burying your head in the sand. But, on a very positive note, visit the villages and little towns (both south and north and east and west) and you might just catch a glimpse of the REAL England. That's all I'm saying Sue, I love this country...........side, I just don't love our cities.
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Ron Brind
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quotePosted at 20:47 on 17th June 2008
>>>there's not a lot of point burying your head in the sand. Was that mean't to be a clue Yasser, I mean Andy? I understand exactly what you are saying and yes to some extent you are right, but how do we change it and/or does it need to be changed?
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