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Wolf
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Posted at 00:12 on 9th October 2008

Cathy dear, please do not feel hurt. I am sure that Ron was trying to do his best to help POE, and would be most devistated if he thought he had hurt anybody.

As you can see, I only had made one comment on this thread ( which I was not thanked for Paul) but your point Cathy is one I was trying to state.

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Posted at 03:24 on 9th October 2008

No worries Wolf;  Ron did comment/reply to my posting individually, despite not apparenly being able to understand what I was saying i.e. 1000s upon 1000s of miles over 4 years over several southern counties from Somerset to Kent to get pictures I thought visitors might like to see, wasn't exactly free. Nor have I found a camera manufacturer willing to give their pruducts away, so when in recent months---for one example of many---I wanted some of the best products Mr Nikon makes, it came with a £6,000 bill, and hopefully, it might reflect on the photos on the site too. Perhaps I worded it wrongly? As Ron will find out, if he didn't already know, I'm a man of my word, and some 450-ish photos have now been removed from the site, with about 30-odd left for one special reason or another. The other ones I learnt tonight seemed to have been pretty much worthless, or very little anyway. More fool me for wasting my time and money taking them.  It won't happen again.

I also emailed Cathy about her posting above as I thought she over reacted a bit. Ron didn't hurt me as so much told me to stop wasting my money taking photos for this site. Point taken.

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Sue H
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Posted at 03:46 on 9th October 2008

Deep cleansing breaths everyone.

I think we are now aware that there is a donation button on for POE. Those who can donate will, those who can't (for reasons they don't need to divulge), won't.

Let us not get upset with each other, life is way too short.

 

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Wolf
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Posted at 04:26 on 9th October 2008

G'day Sue, I agree, a breath of fresh air needed.

  How are your smillies going ? 

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Posted at 06:54 on 9th October 2008
Well said Sue
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Posted at 06:54 on 9th October 2008
To wake up and see that you have removed so many of your wonderful pictures from the site Paul, is devastating to say the least..
We've enjoyed them for so many years now and no doubt so have lots of other people. Ron is a passionate man that is all, and he was clearly trying to do his best for his family, which we love him for. He will no doubt be as deeply upset as we are when he finds out this has happened, as he was simply trying to help.

We sincerely hope you will reconsider contributing to this site, as your pictures will be greatly missed by us all.
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Posted at 07:45 on 9th October 2008
On 8th October 2008 23:47, Catherine England Schleunes wrote:
On 8th October 2008 17:14, poe wrote:

 

Thanks a lot Ron! I think your greed has gone too far. Now members are hurt by your words and lack of words. I hope you are proud of yourself! I am very ashamed of you! You just could not let Sarah and Chris handle this!


Hi Cathy, I am Ron's son-in-law as you probably know, but I really don't want to be seen as taking sides, as I don't feel there is a side to take. This has all got out of hand, but to see a man like Ron associated with greed, i really felt i had to say something, as i know the man and i felt it needed addressing, and as he has done a lot for us over the years, and a lot for this site especially, it would be wrong of me not to say anything at all.

If you knew Ron, just a tiny bit, you'd retract that statement in an instant. He is probably the most generous man I have ever met, and to associate him with being greedy really is the furthest you can get from any truth. He really would give up the last peice of bread from his table for his family or friends in need. He was simply trying to help this site that is all, not trying to gain anything out of it for himself. He constantly donates money to this site directly, to help keep it going, even though he and Anna are struggling themselves. I hope you don't take offence at what I've said, I just couldn't bear to think that people would think Ron is greedy. He is far from it, and was simply trying to help and drum up some more money for the hosting.

I hope we can all get back on track now. Like i said, this has all got out of hand when there was no need. I think it's time for one of Sue's group hug smileys to finish the thread off with! How about it Sue? We really are sorry all this got out of hand. Please can everyone get back to enjoying the site.

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Cathy E.
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Posted at 08:06 on 9th October 2008

Thanks Chris. I did not mean to be hurtful. I apologize to Ron. POE is my family and I would be devastated to lose anybody on the sight or the sight itself. POE has gotten me through some really hard times and you all mean the world to me. I love you all so much that it hurts when things get out of hand. Each one of us is valuable in our own ways. It would not be the same to lose anybody! Sorry to be so emotional and passionate about things!

I also want to add my personal thanks for all that you do. I know it can't be easy to keep the site going. If I had the means I would be sending in donations. Unfortunately my husband has control of the money which I am dependent on. But when I am able I will donate. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with me. I really appreciate it. SmileCryEmbarassed 

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Cathy E.
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Posted at 08:12 on 9th October 2008
On 9th October 2008 00:12, Wolf wrote:

Cathy dear, please do not feel hurt. I am sure that Ron was trying to do his best to help POE, and would be most devistated if he thought he had hurt anybody.

As you can see, I only had made one comment on this thread ( which I was not thanked for Paul) but your point Cathy is one I was trying to state.


Thanks Wolf. I am sorry to hurt anybody. Just love everybody here more than you can imagine and don't want anyone to get hurt. POE is my family. I would be devastated to lose the site or any member for that matter. Sorry to be so emotional and passionate about it. It is time for Sue's smilies!
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Ron Brind
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Posted at 08:17 on 9th October 2008
Well friends of POE, I seem to have upset a few of you so starting with Paul if I may. Firstly the intention was not to hurt anybody. My actions were honourable and needed (I thought anyway). Paul, I am sorry to read that you have removed even one picture from the site, but let me assure you I didn't leave you out of the 'thanks' list deliberately. I had been working at the PC for a long time between taking medication for a very painful condition, and simply just missed out your name. I am sorry if you felt offended, it was not my intention and I hope after you have been able to think about your actions, that you will start on the long job of re-submitting the wonderful pictures that have thrilled so many of us. You know, once the pics are submitted, we too have an amount of work to do to load them to the site, so give it some thought please and lets get back to what we had previously. I must admit that I thought you and I had a better relationship than what your actions have shown, with the words in the personal contact emails that we have exchanged. I would have thought you could have at least emailed me privately, but I know you work different hours to most so that may have had a bearing on it. Think about it Paul and show me that you are able to see my side of the difficulty, but either way POE still needs support. Thanks in anticipation Paul, Ron
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