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Krissy Posts: 15430 Joined: 8th Jul 2008 Location: USA | Posted at 21:20 on 15th August 2008 Yes..you are right..sorry! |
Jason T Posts: 7421 Joined: 14th Apr 2004 Location: UK | Posted at 21:20 on 15th August 2008 Oh no your all ganging up on me!!!! only jokin Krissy!! i'm sorry!!! |
Jason T Posts: 7421 Joined: 14th Apr 2004 Location: UK | Posted at 21:22 on 15th August 2008 Sorry, carry on then, i'm a thread wrecker aren't I!! i'll shut up!! |
Sue H Posts: 8172 Joined: 29th Jun 2007 Location: USA | Posted at 21:31 on 15th August 2008 On 15th August 2008 21:20, Jason Twist wrote:
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John Ravenscroft Posts: 321 Joined: 21st Sep 2007 Location: UK | Posted at 22:33 on 15th August 2008 On 15th August 2008 21:00, Mick Bean wrote:
Mick, I certainly can't speak for all believers, but I know that many believers embrace religion because it comforts them. The idea of death scares most of us, and inventing an after-life and a loving God can take away that fear - as long as you truly believe He isn't an invention! It's also true that religion gives easy answers to some of the difficult questions Life throws at us. Both atheist and religious parents who lose a child to illness or an accident will ask WHY? The atheist parents have to live with the belief that there is no reason at all for the death of their child, but the religious parents can comfort themselves in two ways. They can convince themselves it was all part of God's plan - and they can look forward to a reunion with their child after death. Those are powerful reasons to believe. |
Peter Evans Posts: 3863 Joined: 20th Aug 2006 Location: UK | Posted at 23:10 on 15th August 2008 And on the other hand John, if there is no God or Devil, just nothingness, then there is no fear of going to hell. I can die peacefully. |
Posts: Joined: 1st Jan 1970 | editPosted at 00:31 on 16th August 2008 On 15th August 2008 22:33, John Ravenscroft wrote:
John, there are a few people who believe that suffering and death is all 'part of God's plan' but most Christians that I know accept it, painfully, as just part of the fallen world we live in. Having experienced tragedy myself, I in no way 'blame God'. And you do an injustice to those that have examined the evidence and have come to a different conclusion, to claim otherwise. |
Wolf Posts: 3423 Joined: 9th Jul 2008 Location: Australia | Posted at 01:20 on 16th August 2008 "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." - Unknown
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John Ravenscroft Posts: 321 Joined: 21st Sep 2007 Location: UK | Posted at 06:41 on 16th August 2008 On 15th August 2008 23:10, Peter Evans wrote:
John, there are a few people who believe that suffering and death is all 'part of God's plan' but most Christians that I know accept it, painfully, as just part of the fallen world we live in. Having experienced tragedy myself, I in no way 'blame God'. And you do an injustice to those that have examined the evidence and have come to a different conclusion, to claim otherwise. Sue, I haven't said anything about people blaming God. I've said the opposite - that people find God a comfort in times of trouble. Where's the injustice in that? My point is that, when tragedy strikes, religion gives people an answer to the question WHY? Some say it's part of God's plan, some say we live in a fallen world... Human beings want reasons and explanations - we're uncomfortable with the idea that there may be no reasons, and that the universe is indifferent to individual suffering..
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John Ravenscroft Posts: 321 Joined: 21st Sep 2007 Location: UK | Posted at 06:44 on 16th August 2008 On 16th August 2008 01:20, Wolf wrote:
Me too. I've always had a dog. Can't imagine life without one. |