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Posts: Joined: 1st Jan 1970 | editPosted at 20:12 on 10th November 2011 Always have things on him...been to his house now twice in person. Some things he did and was the first to do here in what was then the colony era....built an deck that was slightly tipped for rainwater to drain off and into an huge buried cistern for water storage, same for wood gutters on the house....it was then he "terraced" his garden off the hillside with the cistern above it.. and used it to water his terraced garden in the summer by simply turned an spigot. (South American idea) He built an alcove above his bed so in the summer at precissely 7 am, the first ray of the sun came through to wake him up..this alcove was across from where his formal business desk was at. (Stonehedge idea of the equinox changes) Sun never came in this area in the winter time. Off the end of his house and this massive deck....he had first the orginal cabin he lived in while building the bigger house....and then added an look alike one the other end from it....one served as his private desk...the other served his origianl bedroom....later these were his "private" spaces... he wasn' t home much by the time he got into higher politics....so he went to these humble beginnings when he did come home...some say where he had his secretary misstress also.. Monticello was his "public" party and entertaining residence where he greeted others for the most part. (Much like the French Royals did in thier time...whom also embraced the humble beginnings of Jesus) His kitchen...in the house was no kitchen...it was where all the food made elsewhere... was gathered (mostly outside or in an bakery down below the house...which could help heat the house above in the winter time)...for serving in the formal dinning room in separate food courses. But to say...in this kitchen were windows that were able to be opened to their full height to make for an doorway out to his decking iin the summer. (Native American concept) He had an small breakfast table in it for the mornings and less formal eating. He had an river that flowed down below his house....which he used to be transported into Washington D.C. by boat...in the winter time they went down and when the river froze, cut huge chunks of blocks of ice out of it, loaded it in wagons and went to the lower part of the main house where there was an huge underground block ice house...that for the most part saw him in ice year around...this was next to his wine cellar. On the other side of it was his huge open fireplaces and brick ovens for cooking and between the kitchen/cooking downstairs and his wine cellar there was an dumb waiter to the main floor and the dining room area...his house servants down there could send up an bottle o frefreshemnt whenever he wanted it. (New England...merchant marine industry) Behind his house was an separate building....where they made his nails, and next to it an blacksmith shop....and next to that the servant cabins. (Germany...but also he paid homeage to his servants, because he never really left his own original cabins but to entertain until he had family that lived in the house and it was said he visited them, and always did prefer his cabins off his decking....black african influence maybe?..porches on houses came stricktly from Africa) The river in the summer time below his house...his servants went fishing in and deposited "live" fish in an pond in his yard....where by for the dipping the ladies could make him " fish meals" at any time easily....around this whole center of the backyard is an herbal and plant garden of as many speices of plants that he could bring home from his traveles around the world. Many naturally were used in cooking and medicines. When I was visiting there stands an original tree he planted...if it hasn't been taken out since then(I think I read it went down in bad weather since then)... but it was much like an Native American "marker" tree to show the way to the correct path to take to get to your destination. Trees have an special and symbolic significance to our spiritual history...they stand for our heritage and legacy. (Norway myths as well as other cultures)...tree of life. Behind his servants cabins were his orchards....so the indians had to go by it if they were thinking of attacking them...and provided an diversion in feeding the hungry, he mdae ti tough for the Indians...they had an steep hill to climb..was introduced to food to eat...and on top of that ran into an line of servant housing enroute....behnid the orcahrds was his cemetary, at the bottom of the hill, and nice reminder to the Indians also...with his grave memorial marker...of all his acheivements he wanted to be known as his as the College President... and an man that educated others for an better future. Hs house and his backyard in particular has an view for miles below him and around (safety measure) and provided no doubt an feeling of peacefulness. For most the servant quarters and the workings of his house were either to the west and north side or under the house.....his horse stables and the river...or ice were to the east side of the house.....and matched prevailing winds, so the stables never smelled of the animals..nor his home area. His formal entryway was to the south side or the front of the house...he had an long half circle driveay...where horse and coaches could be hitched up in the grass for grazing and safety...while the guests could watch from the huge front porch. He had but an couple of trees out front for shade. (General knowledge of good building designs). All trees were cut down to the bottom of the hill from his terraced side garden...besides watering itself...servants could also pick the veggies easier and not use so much bending down to pick them. Should they be attacked while in the garden...the terraces provided an advantage of being over top of the attacker. Whom really had an climb up each stair like terraced step to get to the top. He is noted for his huge clock in his floyer, house-wise(only one like it so far)...and his interest and display of fossils..given to him by his cousins Lewis and Clark...on thier Kentucky expedition. For the main part his house is tables, desks, and beds....his cabin and his house desk area had libraries. I think that pretty well covers it James. Pres. James Madison lived to the east of him, his "Clark" cousins down below him to the west. Yes, he has Rogers kin also...and did you here "coast" the other night with Alex Jones...as he said he was related to the Rogers also. MOst of this group were the female line of the Lawson's and all were intermigled with the Native Americans. As to his black mistress...go check out what Lord Alfred Tennyenson's prophectic poem says.
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Sk Lawson Posts: 4014 Joined: 7th Oct 2010 Location: USA | Posted at 20:32 on 10th November 2011 While thomas Jefferson "inspires" me...I have bio's on Benjamin Franklin and Geroge Washington also. George Mason is someone I'd lik eto know if he was an "Lasson"..or our George Lawson the court clerk in Virgina... at one time also. Was the Mason name an different spelling or was it because he was an "Masonic Lodge" member or if he was an "Mason" in his own right. He was paid off considerably in property during the Rev. War. If sir John Lawson made it over, I'm sure sir George Lawson did also...they both were brothers to each other and both owned ships. Sir John Lawson was the admiral of "his majesties" navy in England you understand. It si my understanding that "Lord Bel" of Iraq...may of been an "fisher king" of his day...in land fertilty or farming maybe...but name later went to "marmaduke" and then into "George" possibly. I think I also recently ran into an old text of another of thier names out of Egypt. Supposedly there are 12 of them...and Jesus makes number 13 upon his death and resurection. They are said to be immortals. According to "Thoth's Emerald Tablets"...an council of 12 that over see's the operations of planet earth for "God"...and they each somewhere have an pyramid structure as housing/worship for them. Don't confuse them with the mortals namesakes after them. I go for now..I went to an early store " Grand opening" this morning and need to get caught up around here in chores. This store was greatly needed where they built it.... Talk later on. |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 10:19 on 11th November 2011 Morning/afternoon to all POEsters and thanks for your recent kind words regarding our trauma, which appears to be improving. You know, in times of trouble it is nice to be able to talk to good friends, and we thank you all for that. |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 10:22 on 11th November 2011 Anybody heard from Diana Sinclair lately? |
James Prescott Posts: 25952 Joined: 11th Jan 2010 Location: UK | Posted at 11:42 on 11th November 2011 good morning all |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 14:20 on 11th November 2011 Hi James. Who is the ugly 'blue eyed' git in your avatar? lol |
James Prescott Posts: 25952 Joined: 11th Jan 2010 Location: UK | Posted at 14:29 on 11th November 2011 tis i------taken a few yrs ago,you should see the rest of the pic |
Ron Brind Posts: 19041 Joined: 26th Oct 2003 Location: England | Posted at 16:51 on 11th November 2011 Were waiting James! lol |
cathyml Posts: 23275 Joined: 25th Jan 2010 Location: South Africa | Posted at 17:25 on 11th November 2011 Hi everyone! I see the sparkling wit is back and putting his oar in!! LOL . It is nice to see you taking part again Ron and hope all is improving in your life now! |
Posts: Joined: 1st Jan 1970 | editPosted at 19:08 on 11th November 2011 WE had an "real" doll house when we first moved into town here...it was the first place the original owners lived in when they built the larger house they moved to some feet away....it had two rooms...one room had an cupboard..and large window, and natural gas pipe line to what had been an cook stove probably and room for an table...the second room was big enough for an full sized bed, or sofa that made into an bed,it had an cupboard, room fo ran small side chair underneath an tiny window and an dinky clothes closet big enough for maybe your Sunday best and an sprare outfit. I take it the first thing they built was the indoor bathroom on the bigger house...and then they built an larger bedroom and an long (to them) dining room and livingroom combination and another bigger room we used as our kid's bedroom growing up, but was thier "business" room I guess and flip side of the diningroom was the kitchen/laundry and an garage off of it. Many of the houses were either huge estate houses back then or these tiny kind of houses...my mother use to call them"remodeled chicken coops" in her estimation. Dad up-graded and rebuilt this house as time went on ..but it was old...and the next guy after my folks left rented it to hispanics that "trashed" it inside and outside. The city for the most part over the year's has burnt down anything not presitegeous looking to the tune of destroying half the town. So if you were anything but not terribly wealthy they didn't leave you any legacy here...and the town history books has so many of the names of families mispelled that you'll never know who use to live here...and kind of funny upside on it all...in the city park they do have...they brought in an Baptist Church to renovate...someone burned it down also. But then again,..if you were terribly wealthy back then...you left living in town...where I live now... was back then very rural out of the city country living...on pasture ground that an family estate home had been built...we had three car garages 35 years ago three houses up the street from me and about four houses to the east of me also. Both houses have been up for sale recently for one and half million dollars.So far they are both there yet, as the economy hasn't seen house selling in this area very good lately...many of the houses are new ones on all sides of me. My neighbors finished up thier fencing...they put up an high black wrought iron fence yesterday and the day before, and it looks real nice. She was telling me that the wood decking is all rotted, so she has to replace the huge entry way deck and she's hoping she can make it into an mound of dirt with raised flowerbed and an smaller boardwalk around it...big enough to put an few chairs here and there in the summer time. They have an big dog they want to confine and let loose in part of this ground. Red Irish setter. They say that fences make for good neighbors. Out back she's got an 30 foot swimming pool and an complete deck built around it also...but you don't see it from the street. From the street the idea was at one time to see an "serene" country atmosphere as things grew up....with tall trees, ferns, grass and places to sit and converse with the neighbors as people walk by...and an place for the squirrels and birds tucked in also...park like setting. We were introduced to the wild bunch up the street some years ago, houses are still selling/in foreclosure there...and the hispanics have went to the Golf Course in the hills and those million-dollar homes...as three or four families move in together and think they one better doing that these days I guess. I am glad they have left, they never took care of their yards, shot off guns with their nasty tempers...had firework displays that downtown Portland should of had instead, caused an local church to go down the tube...added an "head start"school that seems out of place in ways....and those left are still in the process of "picking up the pieces" so as to say. But people are indeed starting to bring it back into the desirable area to live again if but slowly. I have never deserted my "Reed family" connection to this area and Reed college down in southeast Portland....it has always been an quailty and serene area also. My mother's roots were the Reed's and the Davis and I still believe they were the Rev. Samuel Davis, the founder of Princeton University. Reed's are also the maternal line of Benjamin Franklin also. Not so with the Alyea group....my brother in-law's family...they are French Canadians....but they still might have some ties to an family worked for George Washington's cause...possibly named Atylee...I have considerable notes on them as well. I stayed up last night reading an book that's an bio of an young Navajo girl....the solidiers took them off while the girls were out herdeing their sheep...burnt down their home....they took off walking because she had remembered her father telling her there was safety in the Mesas where he grew up and family....they walked 8 days before they found them an were taken in...eventually the "blue coats" caught up with them...and hauled them all away to an Fort...an march that sounded an lot like another "Trail of Tears"...in the mid of winter....they walked 400 miles...slept on ground that was frozen and slept around an fire up against each other with..... if they were lucky .....one wool blanket...rationed amoung the them of 8 to 16 people, an hand sized piece of beef, they each took one bite of and some flour to figure out how to make biscuits with and one cup of coffee daily. Starving, cold, tired many of them simply fell dead from it all and exposure. They eventually make it to the Fort, where the girls find their parents again...then it gives the ending...and the history of all this. Our Government never really ever as they call it "civilized" them...taught them how to read an write either...they through the military were eventually marched back to their homeland and left to rebuild them from ashes. The first four years many more died as the ground wouldn't grow thier beloved corn like it had before. The solidiers had cut down many of their trees fro firewood, burnt their orchards...they had quite the tough time. You can not help their hatred for the whiteman in ways. though I understand the Spanish and their own enemies if they were caught werent' much better either. So now I go for now and see what the day brings...my hubby the so called Honorary Metal earned Veteran is working today....while the Govt and those associated...made him go to war to begin with.. get the day off paid...what an joke. I told him this morning it's become an bit like "Mother's Day" these days. Have an good weekend everyone. |